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Z32
Jun 28, 2017 14:05:57 GMT -8
Post by Rubislaw32 on Jun 28, 2017 14:05:57 GMT -8
Thoughts on ''Z32'' : -------------------
On June 26th 1970,Zodiac mailed a letter to The San Francisco Chronicle.In the letter,he expressed his displeasure that the people of San Francisco had not complied with his wishes for them to wear Zodiac buttons.
Zodiac's ''bluster''came,by way of informing the Newspaper,that a bomb had been planted.Together with a map enclosed and a 32 character cryptogram,Zodiac specified that : ''You have untill next Fall to dig it up.''.
The map was of San Francisco and its vicinity,with a clock-like compass placed over Mt.Diablo.The cryptogram was displayed as two lines of 17,and 15 symbols,respectively.
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Not a whole lot to go on really [?].The 32 character cryptogram has just three repeating symbols.Clearly,it meant something to Zodiac,and he wanted to entice us into spending time trying to solve it.But possible solutions are plentiful.
So I would suggest that the correct solution will only be found,when Zodiac is brought to justice and,in return for a life custodial sentence,and free access to a prison library,he will divulge the answer to ''Z32''.
Perhaps the real clues lie with the date of the ''Button Letter'' - June 26th 1970 [?].
At that time,there were two significant ''events'',related to the city of San Francisco.
The first was local.At Bayview-Hunters Point,on the south-eastern corner of the city,the baseball stadium,and home to SF Raiders,Candlestick Park,was about to have its bluegrass pitch dug up,and replaced with Astro Turf.Now ''The Stick'' would become home to the Football team,The San Francisco 49 ers.
The second,and more global,was that the ''now split'' band,The Beatles,had just released their last studio album,''Let it be''.On that album,was a song called ''Dig it'',referring constantly to the FBI and the CIA.
More to the point,was the confirmed realization that Candlestick Park would be also known as the venue for The Beatles' last official live performance - August 29th 1966,at ''The Stick'',San Francisco.
So,with reference to Candlestick Park making the news two-fold,at that time,perhaps it is this place,that holds the key to ''Z32'' [?].
I put forward to candidate solutions.
The first,bears in mind that Zodiac seems to have a ''penchant'' for a Newspaper headline :
NO MORE TURF BLUES AS STICK TURNS ASTRO
The second solution,which is more simple,and perhaps more convincing :
I KEEP IT HEELED IN AT CANDLESTICK PARK
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Z32
Jul 5, 2017 9:39:04 GMT -8
Post by Rubislaw32 on Jul 5, 2017 9:39:04 GMT -8
With reference to Zodiac's ''cryptogram teaser'',which has become known as ''Z32'',Zodiac was,as ever,seeking to maximize exposure and terror,with the threat of a bomb planted.
Given that a map of San Francisco,and its vicinity,was offered to readers,where might that terror be maximized ?
The city of San Francisco,itself....of course.
One month after the Button letter,two letters arrived at the offices of the San Francisco Chronicle.Both carrying Zodiac's displeasure over the newspaper's inability to create Zodiac buttons,for the public to wear.
Zodiac was becoming impatient and indeed,childish,with regard to the Chronicle's unwillingness to play along with his demands.
In the second letter,mailed July 26th 1970,Zodiac elaborated on the methods of torture he intended to inflict on his slaves in ''paradice''.
Signing off,with his now customary cross-hair symbol,he suggested a ''scorecard'',that read SFPD=0,[me]-13.
The ''SFPD's'' zero,though,looked more like a small target,in itself.
Richard Grinell,creator of zodiacciphers,has estimated this ''target'',in relation to the cross-hair which Zodiac may have nominated,as having Mt.Diablo at its center.
He has calculated an approximation that Zodiac's bomb would have been planted,at an angle of 246 degrees,to Mt.Diablo.
This ''falls'' precisely over the Bayview area of San Francisco.
The area where the Candlestick stadium resided.
I KEEP IT HEELED IN AT CANDLESTICK PARK
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Z32
Jul 10, 2017 1:45:29 GMT -8
Post by Ricardo on Jul 10, 2017 1:45:29 GMT -8
Thoughts on ''Z32'' : ------------------- On June 26th 1970,Zodiac mailed a letter to The San Francisco Chronicle.In the letter,he expressed his displeasure that the people of San Francisco had not complied with his wishes for them to wear Zodiac buttons. Zodiac's ''bluster''came,by way of informing the Newspaper,that a bomb had been planted.Together with a map enclosed and a 32 character cryptogram,Zodiac specified that : ''You have untill next Fall to dig it up.''. The map was of San Francisco and its vicinity,with a clock-like compass placed over Mt.Diablo.The cryptogram was displayed as two lines of 17,and 15 symbols,respectively. -------------------- Not a whole lot to go on really [?].The 32 character cryptogram has just three repeating symbols.Clearly,it meant something to Zodiac,and he wanted to entice us into spending time trying to solve it.But possible solutions are plentiful. So I would suggest that the correct solution will only be found,when Zodiac is brought to justice and,in return for a life custodial sentence,and free access to a prison library,he will divulge the answer to ''Z32''. Perhaps the real clues lie with the date of the ''Button Letter'' - June 26th 1970 [?]. At that time,there were two significant ''events'',related to the city of San Francisco. The first was local.At Bayview-Hunters Point,on the south-eastern corner of the city,the baseball stadium,and home to SF Raiders,Candlestick Park,was about to have its bluegrass pitch dug up,and replaced with Astro Turf.Now ''The Stick'' would become home to the Football team,The San Francisco 49 ers. The second,and more global,was that the ''now split'' band,The Beatles,had just released their last studio album,''Let it be''.On that album,was a song called ''Dig it'',referring constantly to the FBI and the CIA. More to the point,was the confirmed realization that Candlestick Park would be also known as the venue for The Beatles' last official live performance - August 29th 1966,at ''The Stick'',San Francisco. So,with reference to Candlestick Park making the news two-fold,at that time,perhaps it is this place,that holds the key to ''Z32'' [?]. I put forward to candidate solutions. The first,bears in mind that Zodiac seems to have a ''penchant'' for a Newspaper headline : NO MORE TURF BLUES AS STICK TURNS ASTRO The second solution,which is more simple,and perhaps more convincing : I KEEP IT HEELED IN AT CANDLESTICK PARK --------------------- It would be important to explain how these candidate solutions pertain to radians. The Zodiac killer wrote: “The Mt. Diablo Code concerns Radians & # inches along the radians.”
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Z32
Jul 10, 2017 15:23:26 GMT -8
Post by Rubislaw32 on Jul 10, 2017 15:23:26 GMT -8
Yes Ricardo,I will try to explain all of this as succinctly,as I am able.
But,I don't expect all readers to take my word for it [!].
Given what I have already mentioned,on the matter of ''Z32'',I had come to the conclusion that Candlestick Park was ''reasonable'' candidate,for the fantasy or reality of Zodiac's planted bomb.
Hence :
IK___?_______?___ CANDLESTICKPARK
Now,the top line is hardly likely to be something along the lines of ''IKE AND TINA TURNER'',or indeed,''IKE EISENHOWER'' [?].Though they were considered [!].
So,the top line probably constituted a declaration or instruction [?].Perhaps,reasonably short words,in English.
The whole notion of there ''actually'' being a bomb,was doubtful [?].Therefore,I settled for something constituting warped humor,from Zodiac.
Given,the imagery of Zodiac checking on his bomb occasionally,and ''heeling it in'',if necessary,would be ''hilarious'' to many people,brought up on cartoons,this is what I believe Zodiac had decided to offer up,as a solution to the ''cryptogram teaser''.
Hence :
I KEEP IT HEELED IN AT CANDLESTICK PARK
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Z32
Jul 10, 2017 16:12:30 GMT -8
Post by Rubislaw32 on Jul 10, 2017 16:12:30 GMT -8
The ''Katheleen Johns'' letter of July 24th,and more pertinently,the ''Little List'' letter of July 26th,showed Zodiac frustrated that the San Francisco Chronicle had not complied with his wishes that buttons be made and dispersed,for people to wear.
But,as has been noted by observers before,in retrospect,Zodiac was probably surprised that his ''Mt Diablo Code'' had not been cracked.
Again,yet another example of Zodiac ''chancing his arm'' with the bluff of his ''great knowledge'' [?].
When it came to codes,Zodiac was a ''beginner'',and was actually unable to judge the difference between a cryptogram that was tough,but solvable....and one that simply baffled,on account of his ''contradictory'' clues.Perhaps a victim,of his propensity for red herrings [?].
There is a concensus,among those same observers,that Zodiac then,with the ''Little List'' letter,intended to offer further clues,in order that the ''Mt.Diablo Code'' [''Z32''],should be solved.
Given that the solution was probably genuinely funny,in a warped way,one can understand why [?].It had all been a ''ruse'',but he,Zodiac,could be seen as an ''entertainer''.
Hence,the first cross hair offered up,something close to a real clue,with the SFPD's ''zero'',depicting the ''targeted spot'' of the bomb,in relation to Mt.Diablo.
But,Zodiac let himself down again,with the second cross hair depiction.
''PS.The Mt.Diablo Code concerns Radians and inches along the radians'' - doesn't really make sense,in either the language of English - or,the language of Algebra.
A Jack of all trades,but master of none ?
Perhaps.But Zodiac did pick up on knowledge quickly,if he was determined - a fast learner.
But also,perhaps,his mind found itself ''all over the place'',at times.
A troubled person,that occasionally ''flirted'' with recreational drugs [?].
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Z32
Jul 21, 2017 10:40:17 GMT -8
Post by Rubislaw32 on Jul 21, 2017 10:40:17 GMT -8
With reference to my previous post,and Ricardo's question,with regard to : ''P.S. The Mt.Diablo code concerns Radians & inches along the radians.''
This,stated by Zodiac,on his second cross hair depiction,in the ''Little List'' letter,didn't make much sense,in either the spoken language of English,nor the written language of Algebra.
BUT...
There was a ''red herring'' aspect to it,and therefore could be considered as a clue - of a sort [!].
Radians and inches are sometimes employed,as use of ''scale'',and tools of charting techniques in the whole applied science of...
JAPANESE CANDLESTICK FINANCIAL ANALYSIS
Candlestick Stock charts are used to illustrate activity and behaviour of financial stock markets.Each ''candlestick'' represents one day's activity,with charts,typically,representing one month of 20 trading days....or 20 ''candlesticks''.
This specific applied science dates back to the late 1800's in Japan,with the necessity to account for rice trading.
With Zodiac,sometimes the clues were actually contained within the red herrings,as opposed to the red herrings applied as ''decoys'' [?].
I KEEP IT HEELED IN AT CANDLESTICK PARK
Sometimes,Zodiac could be a little ''Diablo''.
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Z32
Jul 22, 2017 1:11:16 GMT -8
Post by Rubislaw32 on Jul 22, 2017 1:11:16 GMT -8
....from a historically accurate perspective,Candlestick charts were adopted in Western culture,by the late 1800's.But its inception goes back,with the Japanese,a good hundred years,before.
So....from Zodiac ''misquoting'' from the Mikado...to a Japanese ''laced'' clew.
The more one finds,the more predictable,he appears [?].
During the space projects of Gemini and Apollo,Mission control,off air,used to talk about ''lighting the candle'',when referring to a projected ''lift off''.
Perhaps,in Zodiac's mind,he imagined the stadium,going up,like a ''Roman candle'' [?].
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Z32
Jul 23, 2017 6:41:22 GMT -8
Post by Rubislaw32 on Jul 23, 2017 6:41:22 GMT -8
P.S. The Mt.Diablo code concerns Radians and inches along the radians.
Another ''clew'' found [?].
The science of curves of static stability....more specifically,maritime applications with respect to a ship's stability.
The extent of a ship's stability,is measured by plotting its ''metacentric height'',in inches,feet,etc.........against its ''angle of heel'',in radians,degrees,etc.
So,that could account for the ''heel'' bit [?].
Plus,the proximity of Hunter's Point Shipyard to Candlestick Park Stadium,for the maritime angle [?].
With Zodiac,it seems to be a question of why kill two birds with one stone,when one bird ''done to death'' with many stones,presents a good opportunity to showcase his wide knowledge and array of talents [?].
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Z32
Jul 23, 2017 6:49:51 GMT -8
Post by Rubislaw32 on Jul 23, 2017 6:49:51 GMT -8
''....one bird ''done to death'' with many stones....''
Now,why is it that Betty Lou Jensen,Darlene Ferrin,and Cecelia Shepard,suddenly come to mind ?
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Z32
May 25, 2018 10:58:12 GMT -8
Post by Rubislaw32 on May 25, 2018 10:58:12 GMT -8
Not just the ''eyes'' that have it,but also the ''I's'' ------------------------------------------------------------
This,in reference to the Halloween Card,a ''confirmed'' Zodiac correspondence,sent to the SF Chronicle,on October 27th 1970.
On the back of the Halloween Card,and apart from lower case ''y's'',all alphabetic lettering is in capital form.
But,if we examine the ''I's'',in the words ''FIRE'',''KNIFE'' and ''PARADICE'',we find that they are really ''giant size'' lower case ''i's''.
As if appearing as ''lighted candles''.
What might be the significance of Zodiac's employment of ''lighted candles'' ?
Z32,or the Mount Diablo code,as it is often referred,was posted to the SF Chronicle on June 26th 1970.Zodiac wrote :
'' The Map coupled with this code will tell you where the bomb is set ''
One month later,on July 26th 1970,Zodiac sent another letter to the SF Chronicle,with further clues offered,in order to solve Z32.
Clearly,it had become apparent that the clues offered,a month prior,had been insufficient.
By the time of Zodiac sending the Halloween Card to investigative journalist,Paul Avery,4 months had elapsed,since submitting Z32....with no sign of a solution,in sight.
Perhaps it is the case,therefore,that there was significance in creating capital ''I's'',to resemble lighted candles [?].
Zodiac was telegraphing the solution to Z32,and the location of his claimed bomb.
I KEEP IT HEELED IN AT CANDLESTICK PARK
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Z32
Sept 25, 2018 22:02:35 GMT -8
Post by Rubislaw32 on Sept 25, 2018 22:02:35 GMT -8
In the Button letter of June 26th 1970,which contained the Z32 cipher,there was also a Philips map.
On the map,Zodiac had constructed a clock-like compass,with the four main compass points,assigned 0,3,6,9 instead of N,E,S,W.
In addition,Zodiac had added '' is set to be Mag.N. ''.
Because of its proximity to the ''compass'',we tend to interpret this as '' is set to be Magnetic North ''.
But the addition of ''Magnetic North '' seems not to add any further information.
In the Little List letter,one month later,it appears that Zodiac had highlighted,as a further clue,that his ''bomb'' would have been planted at an ''8 o'clock'' direction to Mount Diablo.So,yes,''Hunter's Point'' did seem to be in keeping,with that direction,and ''Candlestick Park'' beside it.
So,what of ''Mag.N.'' [?]...and did it really have any relevance,as part of Zodiac's ''clews'' ?
I would suggest that it did....but NOT as ''Magnetic North''.
''MAGNESIUM NITRATE'' is a clear crystaline solid [...also in powder form...],often used in pyrotechnics.....i.e. Fireworks.
So,it is certainly possible that ''Mag.N.'' was meant to indicate '' Magnesium Nitrate '',the highly combustible chemical solid,as a main ingredient in Fireworks.
In effect,that Magnesium Nitrate would be the combustible element,to Zodiac's claimed ''bomb''.
''Mag.N.'' = ''Magnesium Nitrate''.
And,perhaps,in Zodiac's mind,the whole place,was going to go up,like a ''Roman Candle''.
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Z32
Sept 26, 2018 11:29:20 GMT -8
Post by Rubislaw32 on Sept 26, 2018 11:29:20 GMT -8
.....further to my previous post....
Zodiac had written,as an introduction to the Z32 cipher :
'' The Map coupled with this code will tell you where the bomb is set. ''
If we include the 0,from the compass,then,on the map,it read : '' O is set to be Mag.N. ''
The Little List letter,gave the further clue as ''O'' being the ''bomb'' target,at an ''8 o'clock'' direction,from Mount Diablo.
Hence : '' O is set to be Mag.N. '' = '' Bomb is set to be Magnesium Nitrate ''
In addition,if water is added to Magnesium Nitrate,then the chemical substance makes an excellent fertiliser for horticultural plants.
Zodiac had talked about the horticultural season,''The Fall''.....the ''Planting'' of a bomb....the ''Digging up'' of a bomb.....and now,the ''Heeling in'' of a bomb.
Horticultural puns ''a plenty''.
I KEEP IT HEELED IN AT CANDLESTICK PARK
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Z32
Jul 27, 2019 17:55:45 GMT -8
Post by David C on Jul 27, 2019 17:55:45 GMT -8
Why not take the Zodiac's instructions more literally? '0 is to be set Mag N'. Note that the four points of the compass rose are in hours, except where '12' should be is '0'. The zero indicates the heading to the bomb. Let's follow Zodiac's instructions literally and rotate the compass rose to magnetic north or 15 degrees counter-clockwise and draw a line on the map on a magnetic north heading. Extend the line to where it crosses Highway 12 in Solano County. The Zodiac drops the number 12 hint all over his bomb related messages: an erroneous kill count, Phillips 66, the top of the rose not being 12, etc. The line intersects Highway 12 at the intersection of Road 113, close to the Round Hill over-crossing. A perfect place to plant a bomb to take out a school bus. This site is in the vicinity of the Zodiac's early killings. The Z32 cipher backs up the map. The Z32 is a very simple Latitude X Longitude location of the bomb site. The second line of the Z32 starts with 'X'. One of the possible solutions meets every single hint provided by the Zodiac. Including the use of radians. The solution provides the latitude and longitude of the Round Hill Over-crossing. The Zodiac was indeed incredulous that the bomb location was not solved. To him it was so simple. That is why he continued to drop hints after the Z32 cipher and map were published. The Zodiac wanted the Z32 and his other ciphers solved. Much more details at ZodiacZ32.com.
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Z32
Jul 27, 2019 18:39:02 GMT -8
Post by David C on Jul 27, 2019 18:39:02 GMT -8
Look closely at the Zodiac's instructions on the map. For years everyone has interpreted his instructions as 'is to be set to Mag. N.' 1) That is not even a complete sentence (odd for an obsessive compulsive like Z) 2) 'is' is not capitalized, yet Z capitalized 'Mag' and 'N'. 3) Notice the odd spacing of the sentence. The distance from '0' to 'is' is the same as the distance from 'is' to 'to' 4) It is not pure coincidence that the instructions line up precisely with '0'. Z could have placed the instructions anywhere on the map. He didn't!
The complete instructions are '0 is to be set to Mag. N.' The zero heading to the bomb is on the line that is magnetic north from Mt Diablo.
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Z32
Jul 28, 2019 8:18:37 GMT -8
Post by Rubislaw32 on Jul 28, 2019 8:18:37 GMT -8
Some good a seemingly sound ideas put forward,David C....and certainly don't say that lightly.I will be reading through what you propose,a few more times,for sure.
Just on what I picked up initialy....yes,there is every good reason to believe that Zodiac intended the bomb to be found,where he had put ''zero'',on his clock/compass.That was my first ''port of call'',and one will note that it clearly reveals,the small town of ''Clayton''.
But then,later on,with the Zodiac's ''target'' diagram,in the ''Little List'' letter,he suggests that the ''bomb target'' is,at ''8 o'clock'' to Mount Diablo.Albeit casually drawn,this ''8 o'clock'' direction,tends to suggest,either ''The Oakland Colluseum''...or beyond the bay,to towards Hunter's Point,and Candlestick Park.''Two'' stadia,that might be in keeping,with a terrorist act,to maximize death and maiming.
And,yes,it is certainly apparent that the Zodiac expected to receive the correct solution,and had followed up,with further clues,in slight bewonderment,that his puzzle hadn't been solved.
Two aspects,I believe,that really ought to be kept in mind,are....that firstly,the whole idea of a bomb,was just a ruse and,we exist,for the Zodiac's benefit,to solve his puzzle,of a ''make belief'' idea.And,secondly,that he always seemed to err,on being ''duplicitous''....more than one solution...but we had to find the ''right one'',to fit.
A nice and interesting contribution,from you ''David C''.
Have you thought about joining up,at this site ? I suspect that you have more to offer,on the ciphers and puzzles [?]...and I'm sure that you would be a welcome addition,to the membership.
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