Apologies for backtracking slightly, but I've only recently joined the forum, so I wasn't present at the start of this thread.
Anyway,'Sorry no cipher'. Earlier someone pointed out that the words cross twice = 'double crossed'. For a while now, I'd been looking at the 'x' symbols in the 340 (yes, I'm slightly obsessive!). Both are surrounded by many of the same characters. Additionally, these characters can be connected in the same order.
The characters surrounding each x, and the number of times each character occurs, are as follows:
Reverse c: 10 F: 10 Crosshair: 9 G: 6 N: 5
If the above clusters are a result of chance, it's quite a strange coincidence that the characters can also be linked together in the same order in both groups.
This might happen elsewhere in the 340, but I've yet to see it. Factor in, Z's 'x' hint, and it all strikes me as quite interesting. But, there again, most things do!
Additionally, to really push the idea to its limits, is it me or do the two groups of letters almost resemble stick figures - albeit with a missing arm? The 'x' on one is located over what would be the groin region - like the pumpkin on the skeleton. But, coincidences! Just a thought.
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Would just like to add that these are interesting observations,Quorum - though I would be doubtful that many would get ''excited'' about what is contained within the circles [?].
HOWEVER,The two ''right-angle'' observations [....B . C V...and R J I ....] are [personally] quite fascinating !
It's a shame that more similar ''right-angles'' don't appear - otherwise there would be a strong case for examining whether Zodiac put the cipher together with two giant diagonals - or a greater argument for employment of ''mirror imaging'' [?].
''X'' represents a symbol in the 340,as you have observed,whose usage is ''twice''.I have noted that there are a host of symbols employed,that appear exclusively ''twice'' - and believe this to be the ultimate key to unlocking the 340's ''secret''.Something perhaps,along the lines of ''heterophonic'',as opposed to homophonic substitution [?].
Provided,of course,that the reality isn't that Zodiac just plain ''f--k-d up''.
Hmm, yes - I think the grouping is possibly relevant, but not the joining of letters? I can't see how that could be work with a cipher - in retrospect! I just got overexcited, I think.
As for the pivots - the 'L'shapes - not my discovery, I'm afraid! But I agree - certainly very interesting! Someone carried out some statistical analysis on them. It seems it's very unlikely they occurred 'organically'. zodiackillerciphers.com/wiki/index.php?title=Pivots
Indeed....in fact while I'm feeling in a suitably grumpy mood....you mentioned the ''bell ringing'' STATISTICAL ANALYSIS [!}.
On one of the larger sites,there is a section devoted to this aspect - that runs to almost 100 [one hundred !] pages.
Just a few [nerdy] gentlemen devote themselves to lists of incomprehensible numbers,claiming,and congratulating themselves,that they are getting to the bottom of the enigma surrounding the 340,in particular.
''Bottom'' seems to be the operative word,since one can only imagine that they are actually examining each others.
Perhaps unkind of me to say,but if they would devote some of their precious time to making a real attempt to translate the bless-ed cipher,their contributions might be taken more seriously [?].
Rubislaw32: Thanks for the Blackfoot Alphabet tip , Guest 123 .This could be of interest , with the Z148 cipher text . Given a link to the Karl Werner murders , Z148 is likely to be Zodiac authentic . Nice spot .
Jan 11, 2020 6:53:53 GMT -8
Guest123: Most of the people murdered have double letters in their name. Is it a coincidence? Is it deliberate?
Jan 10, 2020 22:05:39 GMT -8
Guest123: Look at the Blackfoot alphabet. Some of the letters look like the symbol in one or more of the cyphers.
Jan 10, 2020 21:50:26 GMT -8
Handyman: ricardo; if the watch is as a compass and the math addad , 36/42 or between its centre 40/41 would or could this also be used at the geographical end of the puzzle , I heard the trick is to find his north ? seeing as the numbers are a key. dvk
Dec 19, 2019 7:55:37 GMT -8
Rubislaw32: Apple Florez extends her apologies to all members,at this site,for her insults,and regrets that she was frustrated,at the time of posting.[refer : Kenneth Lester German ]
Sept 11, 2019 18:02:21 GMT -8
RandolphCarter: Belli defended murderer Jack Ruby
Sept 1, 2019 15:28:14 GMT -8
RandolphCarter: "This thing in me wont let me" Z wasn't nuts, he knew truth.
Sept 1, 2019 15:27:39 GMT -8
RandolphCarter: It is worth it to look at subsidies received by the Lykes Steamship Co since the foundation of the Maritime Administration and notice all of those extra digits. I believe I've made my point and will digress.
Sept 1, 2019 12:58:42 GMT -8
RandolphCarter: Is there wisdom in stopping someone trying to fix the world? Would our research be better spent on JFK, RFK, Bugliosi, and all those states down in the Caribbean we know nothing about?
Sept 1, 2019 12:56:57 GMT -8
RandolphCarter: Was Goldcatcher thought up to catch greedhounds?
Aug 30, 2019 13:14:18 GMT -8
RandolphCarter: Were there any significant astronomical events of 2019 Zodiac would have observed? What were his thoughts on the Ultima Thule Flyby? Randolph Carter smiled to himself in the Strange High House In The Mist that night and thought of sunken Uralia.
Aug 30, 2019 13:13:19 GMT -8
RandolphCarter: The irony of reward money is there must be a world left to spend it in. How deep does Zodiac go and will there still be a bank to go to? The clear headed researcher must remind himself of this.
Aug 30, 2019 13:09:05 GMT -8
RandolphCarter: David Farrady born under Libra killed under Sagittarius. Paul Stine born under Sagittarius killed under Libra.
Aug 30, 2019 11:33:42 GMT -8
RandolphCarter: all victims different horoscope signs. Darlene Ferrin born on cusp of Cancer and Leo.
Aug 30, 2019 11:30:59 GMT -8
RandolphCarter: Just how many scandals were kept secret by the zodiac remaining unsolved?
Aug 29, 2019 20:32:15 GMT -8
RandolphCarter: How many Paul Tates were there and did Blaine ever meet Gutierrez Mannoyo?
Aug 29, 2019 20:31:15 GMT -8
RandolphCarter: Did Cheri Jo ever interact with a "John Riverside"?
Aug 29, 2019 20:27:50 GMT -8
RandolphCarter: Did they ever participate in any "hoaxes" similar to Carl Meredith Allen's annotated "The Case For The UFO"?
Aug 29, 2019 20:26:49 GMT -8
RandolphCarter: Was the Zodiac aware of the human trafficking taking place within the us government via the Lykes Bros conglomerates? Was he, Kerouac, Lucien Carr or any of the beat generation ever employed on Lykes vessels?
Aug 29, 2019 20:25:40 GMT -8
RandolphCarter: Did you threaten senator Jessie Helms?
Aug 29, 2019 20:18:41 GMT -8