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Post by WelshChappie on Feb 7, 2016 10:44:00 GMT -8
Agreed,agreed... But any group whose history includes arbitrary lynchings and the burning of churches,complete with congregation inside,has a lot to answer for [?]. Perhaps the English Press fare little better in ridicule [?].They are known to sniff the air with suspicion,at the very hearing of the name ''Dolph'',believing anyone with that name must be related to ''The Fuhrer''.And during the quiet summer months,known as the ''silly season'',they will amuse themselves with [genuine]headlines,such as ''Hitler was a woman'' and ''London bus found on the moon''. It was Chamberline's ''White piece of paper'' that dunnit.Untrusting of a Hun's word,in perpetuity.... No I know I am aware and completely agree that this Groups History is built on an evil and very retarded belief that your skin colour determines your role of Save and/or Master.
I have a bit of a joke with the KKK take the piss out of them cause they deserve it for their utter stupidity but I am aware they were no Joke to mid late 20th Century African American's especially In the Deep Southern States.
Racism and racist beliefs are held by people who simply must have no ability to think logically and simply understand that all men, that ALL, are created equal. If their ability to see past a persons colour and see them as no different to yourself is inhibited or non existent then, well these people are not worth trying to explain why their outlook and opinions are incorrect, and above all, f****ng retarded in it's most basic form. When I see Neo-Nazis demonstrating chanting White power over and over like a parrot with mental illness, I just think this is a demonstration of the most uninformed and uneducated that exist in society. Their saluting Their Hero, a man who tried to take on the World and F****ng lost miserably! Coward as He was, would not face trial and answer for His deplored 'Final Solution' and swallowed Cyanide capsule which, if any slightly good thing can be said, is a horrendous death as the compound binds itself to your blood cells blocking the cells ability to carry oxygen to the brain and literally suffocates the person to death slowly. Poetic Justice mate, He died a slow choking demise like He ordered Millions of Jews to do.
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Post by Rubislaw32 on Feb 13, 2016 15:10:14 GMT -8
In attempting a solution to the ''340'' cipher,I believe I have uncovered the general gist of Zodiac's message - which includes eight of the twenty lines that are almost entirely in tact,in a lucid context - some of which,extend beyond a single line.
This is not so much a boast,as an expression of exasperation....what on earth have I let myself in for - and can I find the time to continue [?].
What I ask,at this point,is some assistance.Some clues about Zodiac could still be gleaned from an unfinished solution.
Specifically,I have come across the expression ''NEAR CREDIT'',as in a sarcastic request from Zodiac that a particular journalist gives him an accusatory ''NEAR CREDIT'' for the murder of a student [Cherie Bates,perhaps ?].
Many of you might have seen the film ''A few Good Men''.In this film,a prosecutor[played by Tom Cruise]is cross questioning a defendant[played by Jack Nicholson] :
T.C. : ''Would you have concluded that this represented a serious breach of regulations ?''
J.N. : ''Possibly.''
T.C. : '' Deadly serious ?''
J.N. : ''Is there any other kind ?''
You might note that Zodiac has employed expressions in his letters,such as ''Mildly serious''.Effectively,''planting'' an adjective in front of another word,that actually has superfluous or redundant consequences....and only serves to belittle the ''object'' word.
Zodiac clearly employs this technique to compound his ''sinister'' nature.
I have heard of ''partial credit'' before - but never ''near credit''...which,literally,doesn't make sense.But it could be a familiar expression,even in a sarcastic context,to someone.Perhaps,in a particular area of the USA,or English Language country outside UK [?].
''NEAR CREDIT'' - its a ''new one'' on me....but does appear right in the middle of a lucid sentence - therefore probably uttered by Zodiac.
Any assistance or suggestions would be appreciated.
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Post by Ricardo on Feb 15, 2016 23:26:50 GMT -8
In attempting a solution to the ''340'' cipher,I believe I have uncovered the general gist of Zodiac's message - which includes eight of the twenty lines that are almost entirely in tact,in a lucid context - some of which,extend beyond a single line. This is not so much a boast,as an expression of exasperation....what on earth have I let myself in for - and can I find the time to continue [?]. What I ask,at this point,is some assistance.Some clues about Zodiac could still be gleaned from an unfinished solution. Specifically,I have come across the expression ''NEAR CREDIT'',as in a sarcastic request from Zodiac that a particular journalist gives him an accusatory ''NEAR CREDIT'' for the murder of a student [Cherie Bates,perhaps ?]. Many of you might have seen the film ''A few Good Men''.In this film,a prosecutor[played by Tom Cruise]is cross questioning a defendant[played by Jack Nicholson] : T.C. : ''Would you have concluded that this represented a serious breach of regulations ?'' J.N. : ''Possibly.'' T.C. : '' Deadly serious ?'' J.N. : ''Is there any other kind ?'' You might note that Zodiac has employed expressions in his letters,such as ''Mildly serious''.Effectively,''planting'' an adjective in front of another word,that actually has superfluous or redundant consequences....and only serves to belittle the ''object'' word. Zodiac clearly employs this technique to compound his ''sinister'' nature. I have heard of ''partial credit'' before - but never ''near credit''...which,literally,doesn't make sense.But it could be a familiar expression,even in a sarcastic context,to someone.Perhaps,in a particular area of the USA,or English Language country outside UK [?]. ''NEAR CREDIT'' - its a ''new one'' on me....but does appear right in the middle of a lucid sentence - therefore probably uttered by Zodiac. Any assistance or suggestions would be appreciated. I was not able to find a reference to the phrase “near credit”.
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Post by Ricardo on Feb 15, 2016 23:28:49 GMT -8
Here is an example of a Ku Klux Klan code: Cypher Code Used By The Klan In Secret Correspondence Historic Pulaski, Birthplace of the Ku Klux Klan, Scene of Execution of Sam Davis by William Thomas Richardson (1913) Page 97 archive.org/details/historicpulaski00browgoog
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Post by Ricardo on Feb 15, 2016 23:30:43 GMT -8
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Post by Ricardo on Feb 15, 2016 23:40:32 GMT -8
The Zodiac killer could have imitated a cipher used by someone else.
I would like to find any code that was similar to the ones used by the Zodiac killer.
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Post by Rubislaw32 on Feb 17, 2016 0:45:40 GMT -8
As a postscript to the previous post,when Lyndon Lafferty made a ''perplexing'' discovery,with regard to the ''temporary guardianship'' of Fairfield Civic Center Library's copy of ''The Code Breakers'',he did check on the music section for ''The Mikado'',by Gilbert and Sullivan.No luck there.
HOWEVER [!],Lafferty did find some ''perplexing history'',with regard to an LP of ''The Mikado'',at the John F Kennedy Library in Vallejo.Similar to ''The Code Breakers'' at Fairfield, Vallejo's ''The Mikado'' had been held on to,by a number of ''checking ins'' and ''checking outs'' between February 5th 1968 and March 17th 1970.
Lyndon Lafferty is unable to explain these anomalies,but believed them to be ''strange'' - and worthy of a mention in his book.
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Post by Ricardo on Feb 17, 2016 23:33:27 GMT -8
The ''infamous'' eight-ball symbol,which featured in the ''my name is - '' cipher is presumed to have been lifted from the Colorado brands. I would like to find out if there was any ranch which had a similar cattle brand.
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Post by Rubislaw32 on Feb 18, 2016 0:04:08 GMT -8
Just on a point of research,Ricardo,I believe that the Colorado and Texas registered cattle brands are published,and therefore available for public inspection.
It is interesting that you have just posted the ''my name is - '' cipher.This illustrates better than any of Zodiac's ''want'' to add ''aesthetic red herrings'' to his ciphers.As many of you will be aware,if you place the cipher upside down,it does resemble ''want to know name''.This highlights the need for Zodiac to go ''off road'' on occasion,with an otherwise ''conventional'' plan of constructing a cipher.
If looking for clues in how Zodiac planned,or was influenced,in constructing his ciphers,just stay clear of anything Nazi or indeed,WW2 related.Information on codes related to the conflict,did not start to become public knowledge until,at least,the seventies...through secrecy legislation,etc.
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Post by Ricardo on Feb 18, 2016 0:05:26 GMT -8
I have noted the ''curious'' symbol [..and its mirror image..] that appears in the ''340'' - character number 339,out of 340,will direct the reader to which one I refer.I can't help noticing its resemblance to the ''Reprise Record'' label symbol.A company famous for Frank Sinatra's musical output in the sixties,and beyond. The Reprise Records symbol was on labels prior to 1969.
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Post by Rubislaw32 on Feb 19, 2016 3:01:47 GMT -8
With reference to Ricardo's inquiry into a possible origin of Zodiac's ''eight-ball'' symbol,employed in the ''my name is - '' cipher :
This can be viewed online at the Colorado Brand Book Archives.All material for this site was donated by The University of California [!].
Specific information to view ''eight-ball'' :
Colorado Brand Book 1962
Page 269,Brand Number Ten.
Registered to : Helen Roper Brown,Hasty,Bent County,Colorado.
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Any brand,in the USA,that is not re-registered by a given time,is available for ''adoption'' by another Rancher.
The law with respect to the State of Texas,is different from all other States.In Texas,Cattle Brands are registered at County level.
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Post by Rubislaw32 on Feb 19, 2016 3:10:19 GMT -8
An additional name for Zodiac,perhaps :
''The Phantom Library User'' [?].
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Post by Rubislaw32 on Feb 19, 2016 9:16:08 GMT -8
As extra information on the Colorado Brand Book 1962 :
The book contains hundreds of registered brands,including Fred Harmon's distinctive brand,believed to have influenced Zodiac's sign on the Halloween Card.
The source of this information online originates from a copy held by The Documents Department at Berkeley Library,University of California.The book is stamped August 3rd 1964.
[Fred Harmon's : Page 454,No.17]
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Post by Rubislaw32 on Feb 20, 2016 12:09:19 GMT -8
Is it my imagination - or is there something about the name and address of the registered holder of the ''eight-ball'' brand,that attracted Zodiac to selecting it,in the first place ?
Thinking ''schoolboy humor''....think puerility.
Helen Roper Brown,Hasty,Bent County.....could be a lot of material there for a few titters [?].
Hell and Rope her brown,hasty,bent c'unty [?].
Just a thought...but imagine Zodiac leafing through the 1962 Colorado Brand book at the Documents Department of Berkeley University.His real focus is on inspiration for symbols - but general curiosity over-rides....and comes across a name and address,such as Ms.Browns.
All is fair in love and war - for ''The Phantom Library User'' [?].
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Post by WelshChappie on Feb 20, 2016 16:28:35 GMT -8
Is it my imagination - or is there something about the name and address of the registered holder of the ''eight-ball'' brand,that attracted Zodiac to selecting it,in the first place ? Thinking ''schoolboy humor''....think puerility. Helen Roper Brown,Hasty,Bent County.....could be a lot of material there for a few titters [?]. Hell and Rope her brown,hasty,bent c'unty [?]. Just a thought...but imagine Zodiac leafing through the 1962 Colorado Brand book at the Documents Department of Berkeley University.His real focus is on inspiration for symbols - but general curiosity over-rides....and comes across a name and address,such as Ms.Browns. All is fair in love and war - for ''The Phantom Library User'' [?]. I can see Him there ferociously going through the archive and the Librarian apprehensively quivering in a shaky voice. . . . "Is everything O....." And Z looks up and in Amityville true demonic growl screams: GEEEETTTTTTT OOOOOOOUT!" While frothing and foaming at the mouth.
Librarian...."Uraahhhhghhh OK" then runs like hell to summon 'The Exorcist - Rev Peter Popoff'
"Get back Devil!!!! I Command You, tell me your name NOWWWW Satan!!!"
I do believe that Exorcist Popoff would be launching buckets of 'Holy' Water at the Demonic (that has now taken a seat in amusement) telling Library spectators 'This guy's a complete moron! Drive the forces of Evil out? Rev. PissOff couldn't drive a fackin pushbike out. Ooooo He's going to pray the prayer now, wait for it...... "St Michael, defend us in Battle...." Lucifer: "St. Michael the Arch-Angel said No, Defend yourself you Ugly C**T"
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