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Post by balloon.captain.66 on Oct 30, 2016 18:01:24 GMT -8
Hi John, Happy St. Patrick's Day. I'll be seeing you soon.  |
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Post by Rubislaw32 on Oct 30, 2016 23:32:32 GMT -8
Hello ''balloon.captain.66''.
Your ''presentation'' looks very interesting.
You would be welcome back to explain it,in more detail [?].
On first inspection,you have not employed exclusivity in substitution,with the ''my name is ----'' cipher.''Juggling'' is only juggling,if one employs three balls,or more.As with codes - in its rudimentary form,unless exclusivity is employed,then ''it doesn't count''.
The name ''secret pal'' is not all together unusual,or unique.But,all Zodiac enthusiasts are aware of its connotation,in relation to the case of The Zodiac Killer.
Who is ''John'' to whom you refer ?
What is the significance of St.Patrick's Day ? Are you aware that this could be provocative,at best ? Even to followers of St.Patrick.
Your presentation looks like a ''happy affair'',but I would suggest that,you owe it to yourself to return here,and explain what you are offering up,as a post,not least,a thread [?].
If your intentions are sincere,you would be welcome.
Thank you.
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Post by balloon.captain.66 on Oct 31, 2016 15:29:59 GMT -8
Hi Rubislaw32, I apologize, I thought yesterday's date was significant. I must be mistaken. I have provided all the information necessary to unlock many large aspects of the puzzle. He was and is very clever and I find it amusing that so many people are convinced of the guilt of a handful of imbeciles. That being said, I'm not holding anyone's hand. I'd like to see him turn himself in. His web is twisted but not impenetrable. www.skyandtelescope.com/astronomy-news/secret-documents-rewrite-the-discovery-of-neptune/ |
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Post by Rubislaw32 on Oct 31, 2016 21:18:23 GMT -8
Good of you to get back to this site,''balloon captain''.Respect to you.
Much artwork invested on your pastiche of Zodiac's ''attempted'' artwork.
You could take more of an interest in the case of The Zodiac Killer [?].Even,become a member,here.
''levity'' is permitted [!] - but obviously,certain standards to adhere to.
Thank you,again.
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Post by Special Friend on Jan 9, 2018 19:34:15 GMT -8
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Post by Mike Sechrest on Jan 11, 2018 23:10:33 GMT -8
So grab that money. You seem like a smart guy lol.
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Post by Curiouser & Curiouser on Dec 24, 2018 15:26:09 GMT -8
This image startled me when it was first posted and it has been bothering me ever since. It's my firm belief that whoever designed this have not only may have solved this particular cipher but pinpointed a potential suspect in the case. First of all, I'm a data analyst by trade so I began by trying to take a crack at figuring out how they came to this conclusion using a fairly simple algorithm. Taking every known zodiac symbol and creating a library of key sets of every permutation I looked to see how many iterations would be needed to arrive at the phrase "goosechaseogr" using a rotating/variable key switch. Meaning to say that for every instance a character shifts so does the key set and thus it's value. The answer is 3. Only 3! Using those 3 key sets the only discernible thing to appear is indeed the phrase "goosechaseogr". In my opinion this phrase, if true, may have not only served as an insult to the authorities but also may have contained hidden yet possibly true information into his actual identity. The link that balloon.captain.66 provided having to do with a controversy between astronomers Urbain Jean Joseph Le Verrier and John Couch Adams between 1845-1846 over which man discovered the planet Neptune first is compelling. Adams had famously lead researchers on a 6 week goose chase and Le Verrier was referred to as an ogre. I find the it to be more than coincidental that Nick Kollerstrom used the word "ogre" and suspect he may have been paraphrasing from documentation from that period. The Zodiac was highly intelligent and would have likely stumbled across this incident given his propensity toward astronomy. I'm not currently inclined to sort that out.
Now as for the card itself. It was posted exactly 50 years to the day after the first Zodiac killing. That tells me whoever the author or authors of this greeting card are had been working on this for a number of years. About the card. I've been able to ascertain a few other key things, the card itself is about as difficult to decipher as the ciphers themselves.
Flipped upside down you will see "6f-4e A 2 Z" this is a chess move, probably a significant check-mate and I presume "A 2 Z" means "Aquarius to Zodiac" given the multiple instances of the Aquarius symbol. This whole card seems to be a sophisticated attack on the Zodiac himself, particularly his ego. The two blue shields appear to indicate exactly how to identify both the author of the card and the Zodiac himself as the author had come to believe. I can't figure out much other than some of the elements seem have something to do with birth dates or something to that effect, but on the Zodiac shield in Braille is clearly the word "NERD". I believe in the upper left shield the author may have used a similar variable key set system to decipher another part of the 304 note.
""I like killing people because it is so much fun it is more fun than killing wild game in the forrest because man is the most hongertue animal of all to kill something give eryetheyo a thrilling experience it is even better than getting your rocks off with a girl the best part of it I athae when I die I will be reborn in paradice and all the I have killed will become my slaves I will not give you my name because you will trs to sloi down or atop my collecting of slaves for my afterlife ebeo riet emeth hpiti."
"ebeo riet". Why is this significant? If the authors are correct the Zodiac may have cleverly disguised further information leading to his true identity. Glen Ellen and Rose Land are both neighborhoods in Sonoma County in California. I haven't yet determined how to verify any legitimacy in regard to these "duel ciphers" but something tells me there may be something to it. I can only presume the chicken to be a further insult but perhaps not.
I have no concrete evidence to suggest this card isn't some form of hoax, but for example where the "Are you feeling lucky" reference is slightly comical, the introduction "Dear Sirs and Mums" sounds like something Jack the Ripper would say. As Mike Sechrest has suggested WHY post the card on some random forum and not just deliver information to investigators as there is probably some kind of reward? I find that deeply unsettling. Also whoever created this image exhibited both a kinship and and adversarial agenda which I find worrisome. If they truly did decipher something that complex and were inspired to do so with a nightmarish greeting card on the 50th anniversary of the Cheri Jo Bates murder WHY?
I emailed balloon.captain.66 several months ago with no response.
There is a lot to be inferred from the Chinese characters but I don't speak or read Chinese, if anyone knows someone who can you should invite them to this forum because this shouldn't be totally ignored. The St Patrick's card is clearly not a joke. |
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Post by Hoganpc on Dec 25, 2018 6:46:47 GMT -8
Goosechase provides another link to hunting. LHR provided direct access to the waterfowl hunting areas east of Benicia. Hundreds of Californians from all walks of life
were able to frequent those areas. Public hunting lands were available and many private clubs were also located there. Goose hunting was more prevalent the Sacramento
Valley, but not a great distance away. There is another similarity on the card to E Clampus Vitus. Anyone else with me on this?
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Post by Davb2 on Dec 25, 2018 8:30:27 GMT -8
This image startled me when it was first posted and it has been bothering me ever since. It's my firm belief that whoever designed this have not only may have solved this particular cipher but pinpointed a potential suspect in the case. First of all, I'm a data analyst by trade so I began by trying to take a crack at figuring out how they came to this conclusion using a fairly simple algorithm. Taking every known zodiac symbol and creating a library of key sets of every permutation I looked to see how many iterations would be needed to arrive at the phrase "goosechaseogr" using a rotating/variable key switch. Meaning to say that for every instance a character shifts so does the key set and thus it's value. The answer is 3. Only 3! Using those 3 key sets the only discernible thing to appear is indeed the phrase "goosechaseogr". In my opinion this phrase, if true, may have not only served as an insult to the authorities but also may have contained hidden yet possibly true information into his actual identity. The link that balloon.captain.66 provided having to do with a controversy between astronomers Urbain Jean Joseph Le Verrier and John Couch Adams between 1845-1846 over which man discovered the planet Neptune first is compelling. Adams had famously lead researchers on a 6 week goose chase and Le Verrier was referred to as an ogre. I find the it to be more than coincidental that Nick Kollerstrom used the word "ogre" and suspect he may have been paraphrasing from documentation from that period. The Zodiac was highly intelligent and would have likely stumbled across this incident given his propensity toward astronomy. I'm not currently inclined to sort that out.
Now as for the card itself. It was posted exactly 50 years to the day after the first Zodiac killing. That tells me whoever the author or authors of this greeting card are had been working on this for a number of years. About the card. I've been able to ascertain a few other key things, the card itself is about as difficult to decipher as the ciphers themselves.
Flipped upside down you will see "6f-4e A 2 Z" this is a chess move, probably a significant check-mate and I presume "A 2 Z" means "Aquarius to Zodiac" given the multiple instances of the Aquarius symbol. This whole card seems to be a sophisticated attack on the Zodiac himself, particularly his ego. The two blue shields appear to indicate exactly how to identify both the author of the card and the Zodiac himself as the author had come to believe. I can't figure out much other than some of the elements seem have something to do with birth dates or something to that effect, but on the Zodiac shield in Braille is clearly the word "NERD". I believe in the upper left shield the author may have used a similar variable key set system to decipher another part of the 304 note.
""I like killing people because it is so much fun it is more fun than killing wild game in the forrest because man is the most hongertue animal of all to kill something give eryetheyo a thrilling experience it is even better than getting your rocks off with a girl the best part of it I athae when I die I will be reborn in paradice and all the I have killed will become my slaves I will not give you my name because you will trs to sloi down or atop my collecting of slaves for my afterlife ebeo riet emeth hpiti."
"ebeo riet". Why is this significant? If the authors are correct the Zodiac may have cleverly disguised further information leading to his true identity. Glen Ellen and Rose Land are both neighborhoods in Sonoma County in California. I haven't yet determined how to verify any legitimacy in regard to these "duel ciphers" but something tells me there may be something to it. I can only presume the chicken to be a further insult but perhaps not.
I have no concrete evidence to suggest this card isn't some form of hoax, but for example where the "Are you feeling lucky" reference is slightly comical, the introduction "Dear Sirs and Mums" sounds like something Jack the Ripper would say. As Mike Sechrest has suggested WHY post the card on some random forum and not just deliver information to investigators as there is probably some kind of reward? I find that deeply unsettling. Also whoever created this image exhibited both a kinship and and adversarial agenda which I find worrisome. If they truly did decipher something that complex and were inspired to do so with a nightmarish greeting card on the 50th anniversary of the Cheri Jo Bates murder WHY?
I emailed balloon.captain.66 several months ago with no response.
There is a lot to be inferred from the Chinese characters but I don't speak or read Chinese, if anyone knows someone who can you should invite them to this forum because this shouldn't be totally ignored. The St Patrick's card is clearly not a joke. Seriously ?....this ! IS AMAZING to you? |
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Post by Zamantha on Dec 26, 2018 18:54:18 GMT -8
Strangely Interesting-
Do tell more!
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Post by Rubislaw32 on Dec 27, 2018 8:01:09 GMT -8
I certainly concur,Zamantha.
On first inspection,one feels that artistic inclinations,are at the heart of the card.
Are you able to offer more on interpretation,''Curiouser and Curiouser'' ?
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Post by Rubislaw32 on Feb 20, 2019 22:42:55 GMT -8
Hi ''Curiouser and Curiouser'',if you are still out there [?].
There is a thread of posts,now at ''zodiackiller.com'',called ''Something new ?'',in the general case section.
Someone has finally been able to translate,the Mandarin symbols,and their derived meanings,take on more intrigue.
Clearly,there is an Irish/Catholic theme.But also,suggestions now,of a rivalry of ''enemies''.Perhaps a vendetta perpetrated by,or on,the Zodiac [?].
In addition,I don't buy into the ''Aquarius'' sign,as being just that.
There used to be an old homophobic joke,about Gay people introducing themselves,as '' I'm Aquarius '',with the ''hidden'' camp way of saying ''queer''.
Further to this,that ''Aquarius'' is ruled by the planet ''Uranus''.So,it can start reducing itself,to puerile innuendo.
This apart,I am starting to see parallels in the ''imperfect'' solution to the ''My name is ----'' cipher,and a possible solution to ''Z38''.
''Z38'' is contained in the 1st of the two ''Fairfield Letters'',from December 1969.Albeit officially,''unconfirmed'' as being attributed to the Zodiac.
So,''Curiouser and Curiouser'',do please return to this site,and thread,to discuss this ''Card of interest'',further.
You will be most welcome.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2019 19:23:29 GMT -8
The magnitude of a hoax all depends on the size of the bait and people's willingness to be tempted by it.
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Post by Rubislaw32 on Feb 21, 2019 20:06:01 GMT -8
Indeed Case09File,and many will agree with you.
It is only now that some momentum of interest,is picking up,on this ''Greetings from Ireland'' card,after more than two years.
The 50th anniversary of the murder of Cheri Jo Bates,to be precise.
Perhaps ''the jury'' will remain ''out'' [?].
I see that the comments of ''Curiouser & Curiouser'',here,came ten days following SF Chronicle journaist,Kevin Fagan's publication of the ''2001 New Year Card'',this last December.
No doubt ''the jury'' will remain ''out'',on that ''possible'' correspondence,also.
Recently,I have delved into the FBI's HEARNAP files,concerning the kidnapping of Patty Hearst,in 1974.
There is a ''probability'' that the Zodiac was one,of a few SLA hoaxers,who was extorting Patty's father,Randolph Hearst.
In the Zodiac's case,he wasn't looking for monetary gain.Just ''nuisance value'' and threats inferring ''menace''.
Perhaps,of more importance was,that the Zodiac may have been responsible for actual death threats,against the film director,Stanley Kubrick,two years prior to the kidnapping of Patricia Hearst.And,some of the monikers,employed by the Zodiac,aimed at Randolph Hearst,had ''Kubrick'' links.This includes '' My name is Stanley '' and ''Brigadier General Jack.D.Ripper''.
So,perhaps with ''no news'' emerging out of last December,and the notable 50th anniversary of LHR,all is not lost [?].
It may well be the case that,the ''2001 New Years Card'',is a deliberate ploy,by the FBI and CA DOJ,to subliminally message to the Zodiac that,his time as free man,is shortly yo be over.In effect that,''they'' have him ''banged to rights'' on multiple counts of extortion,at the very least.
'' 2001 - A Case Odyssey '' [?].
Could be.
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Post by Rubislaw32 on Feb 24, 2019 5:01:49 GMT -8
Inspired by Zodiac contributor,Blaise Starr's observation that the Zodiac may have employed Braille on the Halloween Card [ I E ],I note the use of it on the ''Greetings from Ireland '' card.
Specifically,on the bottom right,of the four shields displayed,there appears,four alphabetic letters,in order :
'' N E R D ''
Is ''someone'' or the Zodiac,poking fun at ''someone else'' [?]....Or,''we'',the observer [?].
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