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Post by Crow on Oct 19, 2017 6:10:04 GMT -8
The first picture is an aged zodiac sketch. The bottom picture is officer richard Hoffman. I had an elaborate post finished outlining my evidence regarding officer Hoffman, but when I attempted to add these images it deleted ALL of it. So I figured I would post the photos then re-write my case.
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Post by Crow on Oct 19, 2017 6:42:34 GMT -8
I started looking into the blue rock springs case by simply looking at the evidence.
Who were the only individuals known on the crime scene? Officer Hoffman, Mike Mageau, and Darlene ferrin. Officer Hoffman had used his radio to report that nobody was in the area just before the murder, which I thought was strange as he should have seen Darlene's car.
Granted someone else who was not seen could have been there, but I wanted to stick to the known individuals before moving into speculation.
Officer Hoffman was the first on the scene. Officer hoffman admits to touching both victims and to moving Mike Mageau's wallet. So the scene was altered by Hoffman before anybody else had arrived.
Officer Hoffman then rides in the ambulance with Darlene "in case she said anything", which as a police officer seems reasonable, however, if he was the killer this would have made much more sense, its also incredibly creepy.
It is claimed that officer Hoffman was at Darlene's "painting party", though he firmly denies this claim. Hoffman Also denies ever knowing Darlene. It is rumored that darlene was dating two Vallejo Police Officers.
Mike Mageau Claims that they were being followed, when He Asked Darlene, She said "He Is Just Jealous" And to "not Worry About It", In The "This Is The Zodiac Speaking" Documentary, Mike Mentions That Darlene Told Him That His Name Was RICHARD.
Mike initially thought that he Was Being Stopped By The Police, He Even Was begining To Prepare His Wallet When The Killer Approached The Car.
The Victims Were Shot With A 9Mm. At This Point In Time Police Forces Were Switching Out Their Revolvers For 9mm guns.
a call Made After THe Murder Was Placed From A Phone Near The Vallejo Police Department.
If The Riverside Case Was a True Zodiac Crime It Is Worth Noting That Poem On The Desk Was Initialed With The LEtters "RH", Which Could Stand For "Richard Hoffman"
Cecelia Ann Shepard, one of the Victims From the Lake Berryessa Murder Was Attending College In Riverside.
It Appears That The Females Were The True Targets, Which Explains Why He Failed To Kill Two OF The Males, His Focus Were ThE Female Targets, Which Were Not Random, He Likey Knew Them.
Another strange coincidence, in the first ciphers sent to the news papers the crossed circle, the "zodiac symbol" represented the letter "d", and assuming that the zodiac is an egotistical person I'm guessing his symbol would have been chosen to represent the first letter of his name "d" for "dick hoffman" fellow officers on the force would call him "dick" not "richard".
I Have Been Having Severe Technical Difficulties While Writing This, My First post, Which Was Far More Detailed Got Erased When I Attempted TO Add Photos, And My Keyboard Keeps Shifting Into Caps Randomly.
There Was so MUch More I Had To Say, ANd It Was Presented In A Far More Consistant Manner...Oh Well.
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Post by Crow on Oct 19, 2017 7:07:32 GMT -8
I was looking for a photograph of richard Hoffman from the late 1960s to the early 1970s to compare to the police sketches, but could not find any.
It's amazing how similar the picture of Hoffman from the "this is the zodiac speaking" documentary and the aged zodiac composite look.
Perhaps Hoffman had a romantic relationship with Darlene, who was very popular and aside from being married she had many boy friends. So out of jealous rage he murdered her, and to make it look like a random killing or a serial killer he began sending ciphers. Or perhaps Hoffman was responsible for all the killings.
I Have always wondered, at lake berryessa, why the zodiac wore a costume, if you intend to kill your target an elaborate costume would be a little unnecessary. That is unless you know one of your victims...
Cecelia Ann Shepard was attending college at riverside, and the case which is claimed to be the first zodiac crime, the Cheri Jo Bates case, occurred in riverside, and there was the RH carved into the desk in the Cheri jo case...
Ok, I am going too far into speculation here.
Regardless, I think that richard Hoffman should have been looked into, I also feel that others in law enforcement may have suspected him and decided to not investigate him, possibly because he was a friend, perhaps it would embarrass the force, who knows.
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Post by Rubislaw32 on Oct 19, 2017 11:09:41 GMT -8
Welcome to ZKM site,Crow...and some interesting ideas put forward,from you.
Even if we set Hoffman aside,for a moment,you have immediately focused on possible motives.Good for debating.
Yes,the idea that Zodiac was targeting the families of victims,from the start,is certainly worth considering.He certainly had a propensity for cruelty,beyond the act of murder,itself [?].
Through the ''340''cipher solution,and the Halloween Card,I have offered possible examples,that Zodiac had intimate knowledge of Darlene Ferrin.Now,Zodiac may have just been teasing us with this,but at least the notion exists,on paper,to be debated.
Your ideas are all worth considering.The only one that I tend to disagree with is,that police might protect a colleague.They do this regularly,to cover up ''incompetence'' [!]....but not on a matter as serious as murder.Even gangsters don't often do that [!].
Your thoughts are certainly worth developing further and,it would be good to see more detail offered.
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Post by Crow on Oct 20, 2017 6:17:48 GMT -8
Thank you for responding!
First, i would like to.say that i am not a Zodiac researcher, I was researching the voynich manuscripts and un-deciphered codes when i come across the zodiac ciphers. I love an unsolved mystery, so i watched the fincher film, it was not bad, then i decided i needed to hear the stories directly from those involved, and the "THIS IS THE ZODIAC SPEAKING" documentary it is the next best thing to actually being able to talk to these people.
In my last post I mixed in a ton of speculation, which was unwise, it was detrimental to my case and should have waited until after the facts were presented.
Every time I begin to post about this subject my device begins to malfunction, I spent an hour writing a detailed case, and just before posting the tab on the browser immediately closes. So I'll start again.
Let's look at hard facts, I will review from my last post here with better explanations and with speculations removed.
Officer Richard Hoffman was the correct height and weight, he had the correct hair color and wore his hair in a similar style to the reports.
Next, access and opportunity, Who were the only individuals known in the exact area of the murder at the exact time of the murder? Officer Hoffman, Mike Mageau, and Darlene ferrin.
Officer Hoffman had used his radio to report that nobody was in the area just before the murder, which I thought was strange as he should have seen Darlene's car.
Officer Hoffman reported by radio that he was in the area moments before the murder, and by all means should have seen Darlene ferrin's car, so why did he not report it?
Officer Hoffman was the first on the scene. Officer hoffman admits to touching both victims and to moving Mike Mageau's wallet. So the scene was altered by Hoffman before anybody else had arrived.
Officer Hoffman then reports he is heading to the scene from the area where the confession call would have been made.
He is then first on the scene, and rather than following standard police procedure, he begins to alter the scene before any photographs are taken or notes taken or other officers present, this is unusaul.
Officer Hoffman then rides in the ambulance with Darlene "in case she said anything", which as a police officer seems reasonable, however, if he was the killer this would have made much more sense, its also incredibly creepy.
This is strange as well, darlene was not conscious, they were attempting to revive her, so why was it so important that hoffman be there if she said anything? Mike was in much better shape. Could it be that hoffman did not know Mike, so even if Mike talked it wouldn't matter much, but if he knew Darlene she could have identified him, he had to be certain she did not do this.
It is claimed that officer Hoffman was at Darlene's "painting party", though he firmly denies this claim. Hoffman Also denies ever knowing Darlene. It is rumored that darlene was dating two Vallejo Police Officers.
Often times Facts can be quite difficult to interpret, but rumours can often reveal more than than you would think. You must be selective, you can not force your rumours fit the case, in this situation the case happened to fit the rumours.
Mike Mageau Claims that they were being followed, I believe he used a phrase similar to "we were being chased all over town" and then when He Asked Darlene what was going on, or if this was her husband (who knew Mike and Darlene were dating) She said "He Is Just Jealous" And to "not Worry About It", and In The "This Is The Zodiac Speaking" Documentary, Mike Mentions That Darlene Told Him That His Name Was RICHARD.
Mike initially thought that he Was Being Stopped By The Police, He Even Was begining To Prepare His Wallet When The Killer Approached The Car.
The Victims Were Shot With A 9Mm. At This Point In Time Police Forces Were Switching Out Their Revolvers For 9mm guns.
a call Made After the Murder Was Placed From A Phone Near The Vallejo Police Department.
Officer Hoffman reported by radio that he was in the area just before the murder, when he reported that he was going to respond to the double murder call he was in the area where the confession call was made from. If we track Hoffman's movements it doesn't seem reasonable that the killer could be anybody but him, he would have at least crossed paths with this killer, yet the only people known in the area of the murder were Darlene, Mike, and officer hoffman.
If The Riverside Case Was a True Zodiac Crime It Is Worth Noting That Poem On The Desk Was Initialed With The letters "RH", Which Could Stand For "Richard Hoffman"
Below is some speculation:
Pierre bidou, in his interviews from "this is the zodiac speaking" makes statements which lead me to believe that he may have suspected Hoffman.
Hoffman gives interviews in the "this is the "this is the zodiac speaking" documentary which made me very suspicious of him.
Another strange coincidence, in the first ciphers sent to the news papers the crossed circle, the "zodiac symbol" represented the letter "d", and assuming that the zodiac is an egotistical person I'm guessing his symbol would have been chosen to represent the first letter of his name "d" for "dick hoffman" fellow officers on the force would call him "dick" not "richard".
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Post by Crow on Oct 20, 2017 6:24:11 GMT -8
I apologize for all the typos and errors, every time I attempt to post on this site about this topic my mobile device malfunctions, so I just wanted to get the thing posted before another accident destroyed my post. Again, the aged zodiac composite looks exactly Richard Hoffman. I found an ond picture of hoffman from the late 1960s, it's a bad picture, it's from an old news paper article and he is not facing the camera, regardless, he fits the description perfectly.
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Post by Crow on Oct 20, 2017 6:25:23 GMT -8
It's Hoffman on the left in the picture from the article.
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Post by Rubislaw32 on Oct 21, 2017 5:32:53 GMT -8
Hi Crow
Not to be concerned about ironing out your device problems.If you are able to convey,what you intend - then that's all that matters.
I was interested to hear about how you came by the case of The Zodiac Killer,so you might like to take a peruse on the ''Ciphers'' section,at this site [?].Naturally,I seemed to have ''hogged'' most of the posts [!].But it's not about me - it's all about uncovering what was already there,as you may have realized,from your ''crypto'' interests [?].
You have made some interesting comments about Richard Hoffman,in relation to aspects of the case.Controversial to accuse a police officer [!] - but,on first inspection,there are pertinent reasons to suspect [?].I will certainly have another look at him.
Just to make a case of defence,in favour of crime scene cops....if any victims are still alive,that is the priority of the moment.So,often crime scenes are partially ''spoiled'',by attending to anyone still alive.The murder of Paul Stine is an example of a perfectly preserved crime scene,since it was apparent that Stine's murder was instantaneous.
I will be looking at the ''This is the Zodiac speaking'' documentary,again....and pay particular attention to Mr.Hoffman [!].
Most intriguing posts,from you,Crow.
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Post by Crowguest on Oct 21, 2017 7:37:38 GMT -8
Hi Crow Not to be concerned about ironing out your device problems.If you are able to convey,what you intend - then that's all that matters. I was interested to hear about how you came by the case of The Zodiac Killer,so you might like to take a peruse on the ''Ciphers'' section,at this site [?].Naturally,I seemed to have ''hogged'' most of the posts [!].But it's not about me - it's all about uncovering what was already there,as you may have realized,from your ''crypto'' interests [?]. You have made some interesting comments about Richard Hoffman,in relation to aspects of the case.Controversial to accuse a police officer [!] - but,on first inspection,there are pertinent reasons to suspect [?].I will certainly have another look at him. Just to make a case of defence,in favour of crime scene cops....if any victims are still alive,that is the priority of the moment.So,often crime scenes are partially ''spoiled'',by attending to anyone still alive.The murder of Paul Stine is an example of a perfectly preserved crime scene,since it was apparent that Stine's murder was instantaneous. I will be looking at the ''This is the Zodiac speaking'' documentary,again....and pay particular attention to Mr.Hoffman [!]. Most intriguing posts,from you,Crow. Thank you again for responding, I think what I really wanted was someone else to tell me either "you are crazy" or "maybe you could be on to something" Again, I keep forgetting that I need to tread very lightly here... I kept looking at this situation as an unsolved mystery, and forgot that by generating a theory that I may be implicating someone who is still alive as being involved in murder. The "this is the zodiac speaking" documentary is the closest you can get to actually interviewing those who were actually involved, I highly recommend anyone investigating these cases to watch it carefully. I honestly did not want to believe that zodiac was a police officer, but my investigation kept pointing in that direction. If you feel like doing such, it would not bother me if you began to help me find inconsistencies or reasons which would exclude hoffman. Zodiac gives descriptions of the crime scenes like an officer, he is specific with time, distance, directions, and descriptions. Zodiac speaks with a calm authoritative cadence just like an officer. In blue rock springs zodiac used a 9mm, which for the time was the most common police side arm, they were switching out the revolvers for 9mm guns. Zodiac stated in the cipher "here are some facts which only I and the police know"...probably because he was the police. Calls were made from a phone right next to the Vallejo police station to Darlene's family before anybody even knew about the murders but the police. Would the killer really go to the police station to make these calls? The zodiac did not display sadistic behaviors, it actually seemed as if he just wanted to get the murder completed as quickly as possible, yet his letters tell a story of a sick compulsive killer. I think Hoffman could have killed bates in riverside, the desk top poem was even initialed "RH" So why would Hoffman want Cheri jo bates, Darlene ferrin and Cecelia Ann Shepard dead? When it comes to darlene, Darlene was popular, she was married but had a lot of boyfriends, it's rumoured she was dating two Vallejo police officers. I think Hoffman had a romantic relationship with Darlene, which was the motive for the murder. People will say, so why was Hoffman not worried about Mike identifying him? Because Mike did not know him and had a light in his eyes when he was being shot. I have thought about this, Mike was in better shape, yet Hoffman wanted to stick with Darlene in the ambulance, why? Is it because Darlene KNEW who shot her? And mike did not? I mean, Mike says Darlene told him "he is just jealous" and "he will kill us both" and "his name is RICHARD"* so Darlene knew what was going on and Mike did not, Mike could not identify the shooter even if he lived...but Darlene could *Mike makes these claims in the "this is the zodiac speaking" documentary Same with the Lake Berryessa case, why would zodiac need an elaborate costume if he intended to kill these people? I think it is because he knew Cecilia. (Who was attending college at riverside) You can also listen to hoffman be interviewed in that documentary. When i finally began to suspect Hoffman and reviewed all the evidence with him in mind as a suspect it's like I got a knot in my stomach, it wasn't a fun mystery any more... Watch richard hoffman deny knowing Darlene in the "this is the zodiac speaking" film, what do you think about it? There is a lot I can not tell you here, and I lot that i have kept to myself.
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Post by Crow on Oct 22, 2017 3:25:34 GMT -8
I found this on another site, I thought it was relevant... [qoute] We’ve looked at the idea of a military connection and questionable marksmanship issues aside I think there is a reasonable discussion both ways. There is also a possibility that he was a former police officer. Have you ever read about Buzz Gordon? I don’t think there is much out there and it is another coincidence I suppose, but Howard “Buzz” Gordon was an ex-Vallejo cop who was said to be a violent man and had recently been kicked off the force, I believe for indiscretions with a minor. He had dated both Darlene and Sandy (who doesn’t think he had any involvement). The coincidence is that Buzz had a fist fight with responding officer Richard Hoffman maybe two weeks before the murder. www.zodiacciphers.com/zodiac-news/the-creation-of-a-zodiac-suspect[quote/]
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Post by Crow on Oct 22, 2017 4:33:55 GMT -8
We’ve looked at the idea of a military connection and questionable marksmanship issues aside I think there is a reasonable discussion both ways. There is also a possibility that he was a former police officer. Have you ever read about Buzz Gordon? I don’t think there is much out there and it is another coincidence I suppose, but Howard “Buzz” Gordon was an ex-Vallejo cop who was said to be a violent man and had recently been kicked off the force, I believe for indiscretions with a minor. He had dated both Darlene and Sandy (who doesn’t think he had any involvement). The coincidence is that Buzz had a fist fight with responding officer Richard Hoffman maybe two weeks before the murder. zodiackillermystery.freeforums.net/thread/212/speculations-regarding-officer-richard-hoffman?page=1#ixzz4wEkeaJmH.... I find this significant as well, Darlene was dating two Vallejo police officers, one we know was Buzz gordon, the other we suspect was Richard hoffman, both of which are having physical alterations before the murder. Mike, in the "this is is the zodiac speaking" documentary , claims that he came Darlene had been followed all over town that night, when he questions Darlene he says that Darlene made these comments: "he will kill is both", "he is just jealous" and "his name is RICHARD" ...and by coincidence, an officer who is rumored to have had a relationship with darlene, who's name is RICHARD, just happened to be on the scene moments before and moments after darkened murder. Officer Hoffman fits Mike's description, and there is ample evidence suggesting zodiac was a police officer. There are also some strange connections between Hoffman and Cheri jo bates, one of the most glaring being the "RH" initials with the poem on the desk. This poem was said to be a zodiac handwriting match.
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Post by Rubislaw32 on Oct 22, 2017 5:39:17 GMT -8
Interesting comments,from you,Crow.
That which you have mentioned,is apparent to many experienced Zodiac enthusiasts.More particularly,the local rumour and gossip,surrounding Darlene Ferrin.
Sadly,in death,the seemingly ''duplicitous'' life that Ms.Ferrin lead,hasn't made it any easier to solve her murder.''We'' are fairly confident that Darlene's personal address book,is in the hands of an appropriate LE agency...with the one on public view,being for both she and her husband.
So,there is still a chance that her perpetrator,is in that book.If Hoffman's name is within,one would presume him to have already been interviewed,in connection to her death....and at the very least,with regard to any interest in him [?].
But,all things said,Darlene's life appears to have been extraordinarily complicated.A myriad of possibilities [?].
My personal inclinations are,that Zodiac never did leave his real name,for us to find.Why on earth would he [?]....as if offering himself as a potential ''prize'',to any sleuth or policeman,with the ''canniness'' to uncover his identity.
Only forensics,and as much supporting circumstantial evidence,as possible,can ensure a conviction...to show,beyond reasonable doubt,the identity of The Zodiac Killer.
But I suspect that few,on the websites,have suspected Hoffman,in the past,Crow.
So,you have probably ''put the cat among the pigeons'' [!].
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Post by Crow on Nov 7, 2017 6:53:22 GMT -8
I have been discussing this same topic here: zodiackillersite.com/viewtopic.php?f=47&t=3570&p=55986#p55986There a a few good points mentioned. First ill start with hard facts: ·Officer Hoffman was in the exact area at the exact time of the murder, giving him access and opportunity. ·Hoffman reports the area was empty, when he should have seen mike and Darlene. ·Officer Hoffman was in plain cloths, and was driving an unmarked car which matches Mike's description. ·Officer Hoffman would have had a 9mm, this was a time when all the police in California were switching out their revolvers for 9mm hand guns, and Hoffman would have had the bright police flashlight light.
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Post by Rubislaw32 on Nov 9, 2017 6:29:52 GMT -8
Thanks for putting all this Hoffman related information,on ZKM,Crow.
And,for your honesty,in spreading your ''feelers'' at ''zodiackillersite''.Indeed,sometimes it benefits to maximize feedback....particularly when there is uncertainty,in one's own mind.
It is all too apparent that there are some ''scallywags'' and scoundrels,among the ranks of the Zodiac community.Often they just run out of credulity,and quietly are pushed to the ''margins''.
Serious crime,such as enacted by Zodiac,causes so much hurt,and to so many....not least the injustices of human life snuffed out.
So,it is important to at least try to retain,dignified standards of behaviour,as we endeavour to lay bare the truth.
Sadly,there is a group,within the community who,having so far failed to make any significant contribution to the solving of Zodiac's ciphers,have decided to branch out into the world of entertainment....employing ''The Zodiac Killer'',in their leading role.
Not exactly what many would have in mind as serving serious and responsible investigations,well [?].
I am about to post a comparison,between the solutions arrived at,on the ''408'' cipher,by The Hardens and ''concerned citizen''.
It may not come a huge surprise that there is compelling evidence to suggest that the ''concerned citizen'' was none other,than Zodiac himself.
Nevertheless,something extra for the ''true'' Zodiac devotee [?].
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Post by Crow on Nov 9, 2017 7:39:48 GMT -8
Thanks for putting all this Hoffman related information,on ZKM,Crow. And,for your honesty,in spreading your ''feelers'' at ''zodiackillersite''.Indeed,sometimes it benefits to maximize feedback....particularly when there is uncertainty,in one's own mind. It is all too apparent that there are some ''scallywags'' and scoundrels,among the ranks of the Zodiac community.Often they just run out of credulity,and quietly are pushed to the ''margins''. Serious crime,such as enacted by Zodiac,causes so much hurt,and to so many....not least the injustices of human life snuffed out. So,it is important to at least try to retain,dignified standards of behaviour,as we endeavour to lay bare the truth. Sadly,there is a group,within the community who,having so far failed to make any significant contribution to the solving of Zodiac's ciphers,have decided to branch out into the world of entertainment....employing ''The Zodiac Killer'',in their leading role. Not exactly what many would have in mind as serving serious and responsible investigations,well [?]. I am about to post a comparison,between the solutions arrived at,on the ''408'' cipher,by The Hardens and ''concerned citizen''. It may not come a huge surprise that there is compelling evidence to suggest that the ''concerned citizen'' was none other,than Zodiac himself. Nevertheless,something extra for the ''true'' Zodiac devotee [?]. I referenced the link to the other site because I did not feel like having to re-write everything that had been posted there, the information posted on that site went into much greater detail, and others contributions had actually done some work to eliminate Hoffman as a person of interest for the blue rock springs murder. Once I have cleared Hoffman I can move on to other person's of interest in the blue rock springs case. Since this is more or less a "cold" case, (even though it is still open in vallejo), I have the time thoroughly investigate every person of interest. There is really no rush, and I can spend as much time as I need on every murder and every person of interest related to the case. Again, I am not a zodiac researcher, I was researching the voynich manuscript and indecipherable codes when I came across the zodiac ciphers. My work on the ciphers is separate from my investigation of this case. Honestly, I think the ciphers and the letters to the press are a terrible place to start your investigation. For all you know those ciphers could have been designed to keep a person busy (and distracted) for a lifetime. The best place to start an investigation is with the hard evidence, and your suspect list should always be generated by first looking at those who had access and opportunity to commit the crime, then by looking at those close to the victim who may have had motive, then you spread out from there and through investigation begin to eliminate suspects one by one. I have not even started to investigate the zodiac case as a whole, I started with blue rock springs, and have not satisfactorily completed my research in that area. Once I have exhausted investigating blue rock springs I can move on to the other cases. In this case I feel officer Richard Hoffman rightly needed to be looked into, and I can not understand why there would be any sort of hostility towards clearing a suspect through investigation, and due to ma good deal of circumstantial evidence which points in his direction, you figure even Hoffman himself would appreciate being fully cleared. Hoffman reported to be in the area just before the homicide and reported to have seen nothing. When he responds by radio informing dispatch that he was going to the scene, it only took him to minutes to get to Mike's side, leading me to believe that he never went very far from the scene itself. Now, officer Hoffman was in plain cloths and was driving and unmarked car, officer hoffman would have had a flash light and a 9mm gun on his person. So already we have an individual who is in the area just before and just after the murder, and according to response times it appears he would have been near the scene of not at it during the murder. This alone should be enough to make someone want to quickly look into Hoffman just to clear him, I mean he access and opportunity as he was in the area at the time of the murder in an unmarked car with a flash light and a 9mm. Next, we have the information from the surviving witness. Mike thought initially he was being stopped by the police, and the description Mike gave of the car was consistent with the description of a common unmarked vehicle at the time, next, the description mike gives fits Hoffman. Next, Mike claims in the "this is the zodiac speaking" documentary that they had been "chased all over town", when he asked Darlene Mike claims she told him "he is just jealous" and "he will kill us both" and "she said something about RICHARD" when asked why he left this out of the initial report he claims that he does not know, but if you look at his,physical reaction while he was saying these things in the documentary it seems fairly clear that he was afraid. Next, Darlene was rumoured to have been dating a vallejo police officer named "Buzz" Gordon, and was also rumoured to have been dating officer richard Hoffman. Hoffman and Gordon were reported to have gotten into a physical altercation just before the murder. (Buzz gordon was described as a violent man, and was fired from the police force for some pretty bad reasons) Officer Richard hoffman was also claimed to have been at Darlene's painting party, however, in the "this is the zodiac speaking" documentary he denies these claims. (On a personal note, I felt he was lying when he denied these claims, just through body language and word choice, however, I do not let my personal feelings affect evidence, so the claim itself is the circumstantial evidence here) So, Hoffman was at the scene before and after the murder, Hoffman arrived on the scene alone where he altered the scene in many ways. He was driving an unmarked car which fits the description of the car of the murderer. He fits the description given by Mike that night of the murderer. He had a flashlight and a 9mm (as any plain cloths officer at the time would) and it is claimed that he knew the victim and was romantically involved with the (married) Victim, Darlene ferrin. (It is also clear that zodiac was military or law enforcement or ex military or ex law enforcement) Is this not enough to at least want to look into richard hoffman in relation to the blue rock springs murder? (Again, I have not even got to the zodiac case as a whole, I am still working on blue rock springs, and as soon as I clear Hoffman as a person of interest I can move on to the next suspect. After I am satisfied with blue rock springs I will move onto other zodiac crimes.) I can't understand the hostility or backlash to wanting to look into Hoffman as a person of interest in the blue rock springs case, he is a reasonable person of interest, and there is more than enough circumstantial evidence warrent taking a closer look at Hoffman. Jeez, Mike says Darlene mentions "RICHARD", and a person named RICHARD just happened to be on the scene before and after the murder, and since it only took him two minutes from informing dispatch by radio that he was going the scene to getting to Mike's side this indicates that even during the murder he could not have been far from the scene. So a man named RICHARD is on the scene, has a flashlight and a 9mm, and who was said to have been romantically involved with the married Victim... in my mind, that's enough to at least take a closer look at officer richard Hoffman.
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