Apologies for backtracking slightly, but I've only recently joined the forum, so I wasn't present at the start of this thread.
Anyway,'Sorry no cipher'. Earlier someone pointed out that the words cross twice = 'double crossed'. For a while now, I'd been looking at the 'x' symbols in the 340 (yes, I'm slightly obsessive!). Both are surrounded by many of the same characters. Additionally, these characters can be connected in the same order.
The characters surrounding each x, and the number of times each character occurs, are as follows:
Reverse c: 10 F: 10 Crosshair: 9 G: 6 N: 5
If the above clusters are a result of chance, it's quite a strange coincidence that the characters can also be linked together in the same order in both groups.
This might happen elsewhere in the 340, but I've yet to see it. Factor in, Z's 'x' hint, and it all strikes me as quite interesting. But, there again, most things do!
Additionally, to really push the idea to its limits, is it me or do the two groups of letters almost resemble stick figures - albeit with a missing arm? The 'x' on one is located over what would be the groin region - like the pumpkin on the skeleton. But, coincidences! Just a thought.
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Would just like to add that these are interesting observations,Quorum - though I would be doubtful that many would get ''excited'' about what is contained within the circles [?].
HOWEVER,The two ''right-angle'' observations [....B . C V...and R J I ....] are [personally] quite fascinating !
It's a shame that more similar ''right-angles'' don't appear - otherwise there would be a strong case for examining whether Zodiac put the cipher together with two giant diagonals - or a greater argument for employment of ''mirror imaging'' [?].
''X'' represents a symbol in the 340,as you have observed,whose usage is ''twice''.I have noted that there are a host of symbols employed,that appear exclusively ''twice'' - and believe this to be the ultimate key to unlocking the 340's ''secret''.Something perhaps,along the lines of ''heterophonic'',as opposed to homophonic substitution [?].
Provided,of course,that the reality isn't that Zodiac just plain ''f--k-d up''.
Hmm, yes - I think the grouping is possibly relevant, but not the joining of letters? I can't see how that could be work with a cipher - in retrospect! I just got overexcited, I think.
As for the pivots - the 'L'shapes - not my discovery, I'm afraid! But I agree - certainly very interesting! Someone carried out some statistical analysis on them. It seems it's very unlikely they occurred 'organically'. zodiackillerciphers.com/wiki/index.php?title=Pivots
Indeed....in fact while I'm feeling in a suitably grumpy mood....you mentioned the ''bell ringing'' STATISTICAL ANALYSIS [!}.
On one of the larger sites,there is a section devoted to this aspect - that runs to almost 100 [one hundred !] pages.
Just a few [nerdy] gentlemen devote themselves to lists of incomprehensible numbers,claiming,and congratulating themselves,that they are getting to the bottom of the enigma surrounding the 340,in particular.
''Bottom'' seems to be the operative word,since one can only imagine that they are actually examining each others.
Perhaps unkind of me to say,but if they would devote some of their precious time to making a real attempt to translate the bless-ed cipher,their contributions might be taken more seriously [?].
Rubislaw32: D B Cooper's coded messages to newspapers , in his '' I knew '' letter , December 11th 1971 , are solved with Rubislaw 32's Final Solution to the Zodiac's 340 Cipher . Coming soon , to this site !!
Jul 8, 2020 7:31:04 GMT -8
Rubislaw32: If anyone knows the date , in 1999 , when the FBI released to the public the first batch of Zodiac Killer FBI Files , please leave details of date and (newspaper ? ) source , at this site . Thank you , and would be much appreciated .
Jun 29, 2020 2:24:57 GMT -8
Rubislaw32: Looking likely , now , that the May 27th 2009 letter , to the IRS in Knoxville TN , was both a sarcastic swipe at Rev.Bill Graham - AND Robert Graysmith . The Zodiac alive , at that May 2009 date ? See '' Rev.Billy Graham - The Zodiac's Devil ? '' thread .
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Rubislaw32: Who was the Zodiac's Achilles Heel , as a hoaxer , and suggests the Zodiac's religion of upbringing ? Coming soon to ZKM .
Jun 13, 2020 15:51:21 GMT -8
Rubislaw32: The BBC's award-winning documentary , Disclosure : Who Killed Emma ? , is finally available for public viewing , after 15 months . See '' The Zodiac Killer in Other Countries '' , for details .
Jun 5, 2020 8:59:35 GMT -8
Anonymous.: Rubislaw32, thank you. I appreciate your words, and I do have hope. I have moved on to another case. I know you are one of the BEST as an investigator, and have proven it time and time again. Best of luck to all of you.
May 3, 2020 9:42:47 GMT -8
Rubislaw32: Hey Anonymous , I have read your posts and not to worry - LE take a keen interest and monitor the Zodiac sites regularly , these days .Rest easy , for LE know .
May 3, 2020 8:41:20 GMT -8
Rubislaw32: Police swoop to arrest Brenda Page's suspected perpetrator , her ex-husband Kit Harrison , after 42 year wait .See the '' Zodiac Killer in other countries '' thread , at this site .
Apr 26, 2020 3:56:58 GMT -8
Rubislaw32: It was Paul Avery that fingered Arthur Leigh Allen to the cops , in the first place . Interesting aspect to the history of the case .
Apr 18, 2020 5:19:38 GMT -8
Rubislaw32: see HMIC about this - OK ?
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Jan 25, 2020 6:43:03 GMT -8
Sandy: RandolphCarter: all victims different horoscope signs. Darlene Ferrin born on cusp of Cancer and Leo. Sorry but Darlene was not born on the cusp Cancer and Leo, she was born under the cusp of Pisces and Aries. Her birthday is in March not July.
Jan 24, 2020 19:06:47 GMT -8
Rubislaw32: Thanks for the Blackfoot Alphabet tip , Guest 123 .This could be of interest , with the Z148 cipher text . Given a link to the Karl Werner murders , Z148 is likely to be Zodiac authentic . Nice spot .
Jan 11, 2020 6:53:53 GMT -8
Guest123: Most of the people murdered have double letters in their name. Is it a coincidence? Is it deliberate?
Jan 10, 2020 22:05:39 GMT -8
Guest123: Look at the Blackfoot alphabet. Some of the letters look like the symbol in one or more of the cyphers.
Jan 10, 2020 21:50:26 GMT -8
Handyman: ricardo; if the watch is as a compass and the math addad , 36/42 or between its centre 40/41 would or could this also be used at the geographical end of the puzzle , I heard the trick is to find his north ? seeing as the numbers are a key. dvk
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RandolphCarter: Belli defended murderer Jack Ruby
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RandolphCarter: "This thing in me wont let me" Z wasn't nuts, he knew truth.
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