What a crock of BS! I am sorry but Pam was not at Blue Rock Springs seconds before her sister was shot. In March of 1990 when I met her she told me where she was and it was not Blue Rock Springs. She is a friend of mine and has been known to not tell the truth sometimes. ( Some say all the time) I believe most of what she has told me, but this is off the charts as a out and out lie! First of all Mike M was on the ground for some time before being spotted by the teens who found him. They went to one of the teens homes to call the police station and then went to one of the other teens uncles home who was a policeman, they told him. He called the station and was told a car had just been dispatched. If the story that Pam said were true, how is it as she was leaving and sees a police car pulling in? At 12:10 am one of the teen girls phoned into the station and reported the shooting to Nancy Slover. She told the officers about the shooting. Rust and Lynch were on Sonoma Blvd near Tennessee st.and didn't drive towards Blue Rock Springs, until 10 min later when they got another call. They did not race to the scene , thinking it was just fireworks. Hoffman and Conway had just gotten there which was about 10 min after the teens made the first call. If Pam was driving away seconds after her sister was being shot, there is no way she could have seen a cop car pulling into the park. She would have been almost back home by the time they arrived. I feel very sorry for her loss and know it has changed her life, but she needs to realize , that she can not make up stories and hope that it will help catch her sisters killer. She knows very well that she and I have the same man playing games with us, yet she hasn't mentioned him to any of you, because she said no one will believe it. He has called her and tells her he is Zodiac then seconds later calls me and says hello its me. Of course I know who he is, so it isn't necessary for him to announce who he is. He has killed our pets and put a upside down burnt cross in my front yard, This man is not just a serial killer, he is one of the most evil men we have on this earth! I pray the DNA will solve this case soon!
I think you said you would be at BRS park on the 4th earlier Sandy Did you go ? I would sure like to have gone ....if so any pics video. Also do you remember the old abandoned gravel track drive off lake herman rd. into brs park ? our family drove it when we were there in june 71
Hi Davb3, I didn't plan to go on the 4th I went on the 5th, because that is the actual day she was killed. And no I had no idea there was another way into Blue Rock Springs park. Are you sure it didn't lead to the golf course which is closer to Lake Herman road?
There were only 6 people there on the 5th and they had been to all of the crime scenes many times, so no video or pictures were taken on the 5th. We mainly talked about the case and had lunch together, it was a nice afternoon. Lots of new information to share.
There was video taken the night before, because there is another documentary being filmed. That has been going on for several months now, most of us have been interviewed many times for this Documentary. I am actually tired of being asked the same questions over and over again by the guy doing the documentary. If he plans to follow us to Lake Berryessa, I may not go for the first time in 20 years. It interrupts what we do there, which is share what we have learned over the past year about the case. We also go to Cecelia's grave and put flowers, someone had put flowers there before we arrived last year. Nice to know we are not the only ones who put flowers on her grave.
Yes dad saw this overgrown trail almost but it was a gravel track road it had trees and brush leaning over it , he turned on mom was shouting this isnt the turn he could have got the car stuck but we immerged at the brs parking lot ...a car could have set there and no one would have known is my point I guess
There was TV coverage for David and Betty Lou, on NBC Bay area news ( I was interviewed by two of them at two different times on Dec 20th) but not for Darlene.
What a shame that Darlene's sister Pam made up that lie about being seconds away from being killed at Blue Rock Springs. She was not there, she told me back in 1990 when I met her for the first time, where she was. She most certainly did not say she was at Blue Rock Springs that night!
That would have been in a police report if that were true, why she felt she had to make that up , I have no idea? I feel sorry for her and all that she has gone through all these years, but she needs to know these lies don't help the case, it makes it harder to believe what she has to say.
She once told me when I confronted her about suggesting other suspects killed her sister, when she knows the man she and I were being tormented by, was her sisters killer. She said she knows it is him but it didn't matter, because no one will believe its him anyway.
The gravel track road path was 250 -400ft before columbus prkwy. About 200ft long with trees branching out over it off to the right. Z could have been parked there at times to spy on the cars. We were all yelling at dad to back up , he turned wrong , then we emerged at the parking lot in june 71
Darlene's Sister Pam phoned me to ask for her forgiveness in making up the lie about being at the park that night. She wants everyone to know she was not there!
I posted on every site and thought I posted here? Maybe on some other thread? She told me she was having a stroke while she was being interviewed and that is the reason she said those things. She called the reporter at the VTH and asked her to please put in a retraction.
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RandolphCarter: Belli defended murderer Jack Ruby
Sept 1, 2019 15:28:14 GMT -8
RandolphCarter: "This thing in me wont let me" Z wasn't nuts, he knew truth.
Sept 1, 2019 15:27:39 GMT -8
RandolphCarter: It is worth it to look at subsidies received by the Lykes Steamship Co since the foundation of the Maritime Administration and notice all of those extra digits. I believe I've made my point and will digress.
Sept 1, 2019 12:58:42 GMT -8
RandolphCarter: Is there wisdom in stopping someone trying to fix the world? Would our research be better spent on JFK, RFK, Bugliosi, and all those states down in the Caribbean we know nothing about?
Sept 1, 2019 12:56:57 GMT -8
RandolphCarter: Was Goldcatcher thought up to catch greedhounds?
Aug 30, 2019 13:14:18 GMT -8
RandolphCarter: Were there any significant astronomical events of 2019 Zodiac would have observed? What were his thoughts on the Ultima Thule Flyby? Randolph Carter smiled to himself in the Strange High House In The Mist that night and thought of sunken Uralia.
Aug 30, 2019 13:13:19 GMT -8
RandolphCarter: The irony of reward money is there must be a world left to spend it in. How deep does Zodiac go and will there still be a bank to go to? The clear headed researcher must remind himself of this.
Aug 30, 2019 13:09:05 GMT -8
RandolphCarter: David Farrady born under Libra killed under Sagittarius. Paul Stine born under Sagittarius killed under Libra.
Aug 30, 2019 11:33:42 GMT -8
RandolphCarter: all victims different horoscope signs. Darlene Ferrin born on cusp of Cancer and Leo.
Aug 30, 2019 11:30:59 GMT -8
RandolphCarter: Just how many scandals were kept secret by the zodiac remaining unsolved?
Aug 29, 2019 20:32:15 GMT -8
RandolphCarter: How many Paul Tates were there and did Blaine ever meet Gutierrez Mannoyo?
Aug 29, 2019 20:31:15 GMT -8
RandolphCarter: Did Cheri Jo ever interact with a "John Riverside"?
Aug 29, 2019 20:27:50 GMT -8
RandolphCarter: Did they ever participate in any "hoaxes" similar to Carl Meredith Allen's annotated "The Case For The UFO"?
Aug 29, 2019 20:26:49 GMT -8
RandolphCarter: Was the Zodiac aware of the human trafficking taking place within the us government via the Lykes Bros conglomerates? Was he, Kerouac, Lucien Carr or any of the beat generation ever employed on Lykes vessels?
Aug 29, 2019 20:25:40 GMT -8
RandolphCarter: Did you threaten senator Jessie Helms?
Aug 29, 2019 20:18:41 GMT -8
RandolphCarter: Mt Diablo glows red at sunset. Did you have any affiliation with the Red Mtn Tribe after the Barb/Tribe split?
Aug 29, 2019 18:42:36 GMT -8
RandolphCarter: I wonder if Nixon's daughter was threatened because Charles Manson was declared guilty by POTUS without trial.
Aug 29, 2019 18:41:21 GMT -8
RandolphCarter: Did you kill a woman in Dallas TX and write about it in NY?
Aug 29, 2019 18:29:28 GMT -8
RandolphCarter: Was the Zodiac inspired by the "Square the circle" game that the Diggers commune played?
Aug 29, 2019 18:28:55 GMT -8