It is getting close to another 50th adversary, the stabbings of Bryan and Cecelia at Lake Berryessa. We will be meeting there again this year about 5:30 pm , everyone is welcome to join us. ( Except Zodiac) We leave close to 7pm before the ranger locks the gate. Then we go to Napa for dinner and talk more about the case. Hope to see some of you there. There will be two men there interviewing and filming. If you do not want to be interviewed or filmed , just let them know and they will respect that. They have interviewed me a few times so I will ask not to be interviewed.
Pam wants to apologize for making up the story of being at Blue Rock that night. She is very sorry and said she was having a stroke at the time of her interview, is why that happened.
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I hope that we will have a nice turn out for the 50th anniversary this year. I know of one who will be coming from as far away as Kentucky! This will probably be the last year that I will attend the anniversaries. I am hoping the DNA will solve it this year!
Everyone is welcome to join us at the Lake Berryessa crime scene.( Except Zodiac)
I plan to bring Cecelia's friend/roommate with me. This will be her second time there. There will be someone filming a documentary, if you do not want to be filmed, he will honor your request. At about 7 pm some of us will go back to Napa for a nice Mexican dinner, across the street from where Zodiac placed his phone call. Then perhaps go to one of the nice bars for a night cap.
I have been doing a lot of reading and going over police reports and statements I have read about the Lake B case. It is easy to forget exactly what was written in so many reports. I have to say that I can't help but think that the investigators who interviewed Bryan Hartnell, took some of what they thought they heard and then wrote it and made it into a fact.
Going over most of the reports and different statements made by Bryan Hartnell. I saw a few discrepancy's in the what Hartnell told them about the costume.
There is one poster in particular, who hasn't read everything, or he wouldn't have made the accusation that I was making up the story of finding the actual killing costume in my car. He makes his statement because he read that the hood part of the costume was made of material and not like what I had found in the back seat of my car on Sept. 28th or 29th 1969.
First of all let me say that I am an accomplished seamstress and in no way could the killing costume be made in one solid piece. It may have looked that way to Bryan Hartnell, because it was also black and matched the color of the bib part of the costume. If it had been made the way most thought , the Zodiac would not be able to turn his head. It in two parts , he could turn his head without a problem, especially having the two sets of glasses holding it in place.
When the reporting officer wrote that the hood was elaborately sewn, it was assumed that was the head piece right? The only elaborate part of that costume was the logo that may have been sewn, or it could have been made to look sewn. I do remember that the logo was not something that I would be able to remove easily and so I didn't remove it. The hood was very simple, it was a tall paper sack like a grocery bag, painted black to match the bottom half, with round cut outs for the eyes (Not slits). I do not remember if the nose and mouth were cut out or not?
Again reading everything that Bryan told the officers, he said the hood looked like a "paper sack". He also had mentioned he was able to see the killers jacket collar under the hood. The only way for that to happen, would be if it were as I have stated, in "two" parts. The hood part was separate from the bib aka poncho part of that costume. Somehow the reporting officer when talking to Hartnell , mistook what he said when he talked about the sewn part and thought he said the hood was elaborately sewn. The poster who wants desperately to discredit what I had to say about the costume, has posted I had to be wrong or lying , because there couldn't be stitching on a paper sack. Well in all actuality you can stitch paper, but there was not any on the Hood made of paper that was planted in my car very soon after the stabbings. The only thing that looked sewn was that logo. If the edges of the bib were sewn , then I forgot. I found the costume before it was announced in the Napa paper. So the people who think a hoaxer planted everything in my car that day are very wrong. The other things planted that day in my car where things that you would think belonged to an artist? Many colored pens in an ammo can, a ruler , compass radius , a template to write the alphabet in block letters. Other things that could belonged to Cecelia. Most everything that was put in the car, pertained to the Lake Berryessa case. The hood was freshly painted, because I could still smell the paint or ink on it after I rolled up the windows in my car and was driving home. I threw that part away as soon as I got there. It is buried under 50 yrs of garbage at the Napa dump.
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