I say very clever .... the common used letters have to have multiple symbols or you could see the wording of the ciphers easily ,open up your thinking Rubislaw . E, usually the most used letter in any sentence would have or need the most symbols . this way it is nearly impossible to determine the common vowels ,which is a big piece to solving ciphers
you would have to buy the cipher to do / know what you stated ..... and it sounds like thats not happening , seriously cops don't mess with this
I see a credible solution to the remainder here , he gives some explanation to how he arrived at it the reverse image , for not displaying a vulgar message to children ? the zodiac is a big essay theme for 8th grade kids , has been for decades
still waiting for one for the NOBLE PLEASURE X3 ( credible reasoning solution)
Post by Rubislaw32 on Nov 17, 2016 19:19:08 GMT -8
That's really interesting about Zodiac becoming incorporated into school studies....as a sort of forerunner to ''Humanities'',I presume [?].
I have heard that ''he'' is being studied in some tertiary education courses,now.Particularly criminology related.
Yes,anything that awful site comes up with,would not surprise me.It would be different,if the author was offering the information for free - then one could just ''take it or leave it''.But being down 40 bucks,for the ''uninitiated'' - and still none the wiser,does demand some sympathy.
Hope readers will spread the word [?].There is a quite ''laughable'' warning,I see,that one should be prepared for the author's 340 solution [?].In that it may contain words that are derogatory to the gay community [?].
Does that mean that we should swallow a couple of Valium,before we indulge ourselves ?
With respect to ''Noble pleasure'',or the Rubislaw 32 solution,it really doesn't matter,if others are not convinced.It is ''what it is'',and have attempted to explain it,as much as I am able.Law Enforcement have had access to it,for about two years now,and there are indications that it has made an impact on their investigations.Not least,that ''A Zodiac'' has acquired usable French Language,and has probably traveled extensively,after 1974.Most probably,a stay in Western Europe,if not France itself.
Having put the solution into the public domain [...with thanks to Ricardo....],I feel more free to consider other so called unconfirmed correspondences,some of which relating to the Celebrity Cypher.
Think...''Robert E.Lee'',and you will have,not only Zodiac's personal secret nickname,but the key to much of his antics.
In fairness,I suppose,to Davb's inference,and what has been offered to Law Enforcement - ''they'' are aware of ''other factors'',in the ''whole equation''.
This would include specific primary motive of Zodiac,including details to substantiate.
But nothing is a given,in this life,and resources that Law Enforcement are willing to invest,should be allowed a free run,with no extra interference [?].
Looking at the case of The Zodiac Killer,as a whole,a number of factors came together,to create,what can only be described as a ''Great American Tragedy''.These include WW2,and the ''circumstances'' of movement of people;Teenage delinquency;abuse of library facilities;and the fascination with motor cars.
What makes the case,perhaps,almost surreal,is that all these ''factors'' came together in the very place that happened to be,for that brief moment in history,the artistic and cultural center of the world.
As the saying goes : ''You just couldn't make this stuff up.''.
I don't see $40 being a dasterdly deed, if he has a very good solution & code key that gives this solution. Guess Rubislaw never bought a Grisham . Patterson , Coons crime novel for $25-30 ,either I beleive every Z cipher has a rather simple solution
Rubislaw32: The Zodiac then in his writings, imitating life imitating art imitating life. There seems to have been that surrealistic side to him in evidence - imagining himself as Dan Cooper the skyjacker, a desk top poem, a mural, and even a message in a bottle.
Dec 7, 2022 19:47:30 GMT -8
Rubislaw32: But, if we examine Jack as a template of fear used by the Zodiac, we see a man who actually strangled all his known victims - only to then desecrate them after death. And, someone who was impersonated in writing by someone else, using red ink - not blood.
Dec 7, 2022 19:31:22 GMT -8
Rubislaw32: ...likely an old sword bayonet was employed - accompanied by a gun for persuading victims' submission. Thereafter, the Zodiac appears to have often referenced Jack the Ripper by inference, to perpetuate the lie that he was an ''all round killing machine''.
Dec 7, 2022 19:23:47 GMT -8
Rubislaw32: ...which represented the facts about him. All indications to date suggest that the Zodiac was not a ''man of blades'', with his Lake Berryessa attack a ''one-off'' on account that he was running out of guns. And in that case, a double-edged blade, most...
Dec 7, 2022 19:15:33 GMT -8
Rubislaw32: ..yet to be brought to justice, so nothing actually ''from the horse's mouth''. And B) The Zodiac kept reminding us that his writings were all about leaving ''clews'' - a combination of truth, lies and red herrings. And up to the readers to sort out that..
Dec 7, 2022 19:10:14 GMT -8
Rubislaw32: As negative criticism is heaped on the new Netflix TV series about Jeffrey Dahmer for deliberate misrepresentation of the facts, it's worth considering the pertinence of any filmic representation of the Zodiac for accuracy, given that A) The Zodiac has....
Dec 7, 2022 19:04:02 GMT -8
Rubislaw32: Donna Lass reward poster : ''Family are confident that her abductor/murderer will be arrested, tried and found guilty.''. Now then, human remains were placed by Flume Trail, just 7 weeks before the FBI's Dec 11th 2020 Tweet. Everything out at once - FBI ?
Dec 6, 2022 18:59:55 GMT -8
Rubislaw32: You are the weakest link FBI, as CA DOJ considers arresting the Zodiac. With the MA DOJ having little to be proud about. But FBI - instead of behaving yourselves, you have become headless chickens in the wake of Comey's dismissal and disgrace. Dead meat.
Dec 6, 2022 16:03:58 GMT -8
Rubislaw32: So you see FBI, Z has your number on attempting to blame him for Donna Lass - an Achilles heel for you FBI. In addition, Z will know that Boston D.A. Jonathan Blodgett assisted James Comey to impress the Crown Office with Joan Webster's case file.
Dec 6, 2022 15:54:45 GMT -8
Rubislaw32: ...to Donna's victimhood, instead of Judith Hakari. Then in (circa) 1997, with the Zodiac's poster superimposition of a cipher, indicating that the Zodiac had changed his assessment, Z blamed the FBI exclusively (BEWARE I AM STALKING DOUBLE-ZERO !).
Dec 6, 2022 15:48:57 GMT -8
Rubislaw32: So, for the Zodiac out there still at liberty, in 1974 he sent Donna's sister Mary a Christmas card inferring that Donna had been allocated ''Guardian of the Pines'' - believing that Mary was in on knowledge that the FBI had allocated the Pines card to....
Dec 6, 2022 15:44:20 GMT -8
Rubislaw32: Face it FBI - you are ''screwed'' in all directions with influential LE hierarchies - and all of your case cover-ups have been observed; each with reasons, known by your peers. A ''can of worms'' - eh FBI ? But morally, the worst of these is Donna Lass.
Dec 6, 2022 9:01:04 GMT -8
Rubislaw32: Moreover, and as far as I am aware, NCIS Washington D.C. were actually the first to know about the ''solution'' (MR Z = SON) under the Marianne Moore postage stamp, beyond CA DOJ & FBI. NCIS's first contact then, was with the Crown Office or US DOJ.
Dec 6, 2022 8:54:13 GMT -8
Rubislaw32: The implication then, that Comey cottoned on to Grant's DNA indicating he was Z's probable father, in 2014 - and went off in a ''hissy fit'', then breaking the law. And, with this information having emanated via the Crown Office (UK). Comey's downfall.
Dec 6, 2022 7:54:47 GMT -8
Rubislaw32: And, this is what the fall-out in the Zodiac case between CA DOJ & FBI seems to have come down to : James Comey felt that CA DOJ should have informed FBI about William Grant's DNA in 2002/2003. Whereas CA DOJ were officially, under no obligation to do so.
Dec 6, 2022 7:35:31 GMT -8
Rubislaw32: ...testing & eliminations that involved CA DOJ & FBI work, at the behest of President George W Bush. It may be the case then, that the FBI feel they were ''blind-sided'' by CA DOJ. FBI however, were in the service of CA DOJ like PD's, and no extra rights.
Dec 6, 2022 7:26:45 GMT -8
Rubislaw32: ...Zodiac Intelligence processors, one can't be certain if they the FBI received a similar circular as police departments, from CA DOJ. But 2004 would be in keeping with the DNA testing and suspects eliminations that took place 2002/2003. Those DNA....
Dec 6, 2022 7:23:02 GMT -8
Rubislaw32: ...from case custodians CA DOJ, to proactively investigate - so it seems that the circular was more related to letting PD's know that specific task requests from CA DOJ would no longer be forthcoming. Since the FBI held a different case role, as ....
Dec 6, 2022 7:19:16 GMT -8
Rubislaw32: Albeit unconfirmed, information I have read is that in 2004, a general circular went out to all PD's with Zodiac case connections, from the CA DOJ, that the case was to be ''run down'' on scale of investigations. PD's had to be served or gain permission...
Dec 6, 2022 7:14:20 GMT -8
Rubislaw32: That was poetic : The FBI peeled away the Marianne Moore postage stamp on the 1990 Celebrity Cipher card, to reveal that ''MR Z = SON''. Horrors for the FBI to find later that the CA DOJ had done them over William Joseph Grant's DNA. He was Z's Secret Pa.
Dec 5, 2022 23:26:02 GMT -8