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Post by Z finder on Sept 1, 2015 9:31:59 GMT -8
I feel that Darlene knew her killer and knew that he used the nick name Zodiac. That is why he didn't use the name Zodiac until after he killed her. Darlene knew how to sew, I wonder if she was the one who made the Zodiac costume for him at his request?
Interesting find Ricardo, that the place Zodiac could have gotten his idea for his name and logo was next door to Frank's coffee shop.
I understand that Frank was Darlene's uncle, who owned the home where Darlene and the mystery man's picture was taken. The mystery man looked exactly like her husband Jim Phillips. I have no doubt that it was the Zodiac watch that was the inspiration for Zodiac's name and logo.
There is a pretty good chance that Zodiac was a diver like Jim and Darlene and that was a reason for the three of them to go to the Virgin Islands ,great diving waters there. The Zodiac watch is a divers watch.
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Post by Sandy on May 18, 2016 8:44:24 GMT -8
I feel that Darlene knew her killer and knew that he used the nick name Zodiac. That is why he didn't use the name Zodiac until after he killed her. Darlene knew how to sew, I wonder if she was the one who made the Zodiac costume for him at his request? Interesting find Ricardo, that the place Zodiac could have gotten his idea for his name and logo was next door to Frank's coffee shop. I understand that Frank was Darlene's uncle, who owned the home where Darlene and the mystery man's picture was taken. The mystery man looked exactly like her husband Jim Phillips. I have no doubt that it was the Zodiac watch that was the inspiration for Zodiac's name and logo. There is a pretty good chance that Zodiac was a diver like Jim and Darlene and that was a reason for the three of them to go to the Virgin Islands ,great diving waters there. The Zodiac watch is a divers watch. The third person of that trio was called Honcho. My bet is that if we can find out who Honcho really was, we will have her killer. Jim won't say, because I asked him who Honcho was and he gave me some lame answer like: Maybe that was her dog's name ? I do also believe that the Zodiac watch was the inspiration for the name and logo Zodiac uses. I was lucky to see the Zodiac watch case in the window one day about 1971 ,while I was walking past a second hand store in Concord Ca. I gave that information to Paul Avery,he gave it to Graysmith who then told the police. Graysmith gave me the credit for that information in his Zodiac unmasked book, which was nice of him. It has been said that Avery and Graysmith were not friends, I find that hard to believe because everything I sent to Paul Avery he gave to Graysmith. Graysmith told me that himself. I also believe what you said about why Zodiac named himself after Darlene was murdered. I don't agree that she sewed that costume because it wasn't sewn, the only part that may have been sewn, would be the logo and that could have been done with white ink or paint to look sewn. It was put in my car so I saw it better than even Hartnell could have seen it, it was not hard to make. I was able to make a copy of it as shown on Zodiackiller.com and it took less than 15min. Ricardo watched me do one and he filmed it at Lake Berryessa, but felt it wouldn't be a good idea to show the video. I sill disagree and feel it is important to show just how easy it was for Zodiac to make. Too much credit has been given to Zodiac being some genius , I say he has been more lucky that smart. The FBI said the codes were amitureist. That is why Don Harden and his wife could solve it. The code was thought to be much harder than they really were is why the professionals couldn't do it. Sort of like that math problem you had in school that you struggled with until the teacher showed you how simple it really was.
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Post by Sandy on Aug 2, 2017 8:58:37 GMT -8
We have notified authorities over the years about both of them,and have been ignored.What can you do? Heres another bomb I thought I would drop,Paul Stine knew Darlene Ferrin,Darlene Ferrin worked at the phone company,where do you think my mother worked?Yep you guessed it,the phone company. Connection after connection,my mother was also born in oklahoma if that says anything. There is absolutely no evidence that Darlene knew Paul Stine. There was a rumor that Darlene use to get free rides from Paul , when she lived in San Francisco. That Betty Lou babysat for Darlene ( Hogwash!). The fact is that Darlene was murdered weeks before Paul was ever a cab driver. Betty Lou's mother said that Betty Lou never babysat for Darlene.There are people who do their best to try and make evidence fit their POI.That won't mean a thing to LE when people do that and they do it all the time. As far a Zodiac saying he escaped from a prison in Montana Depending on which article you read, it was also stated Zodiac said Colorado. I read where Bryan Hartnell said it sounded something like "feather" Colorado. When I read that I thought of Denver Colorado. I think Zodiac could have been trying to frame Jim Phillips for his crimes, Jim had connections to Colorado. Later Zodiac sends a "Phillips" map. He probably knew that Jim was living in San Francisco, he then went there to kill Paul Stine. It almost worked if that was his plan? Because there was a BOLO for Jim right after Stine was killed. Jim had connections to the Vallejo/ Benica , San Francisco areas and was once married to Darlene. He also liked writing cypher's as seen by Darlene's mother and had connections to the SF Presidio. He worked in the Editors section of newspapers. Zodiac sent letters to the "Editor". I do believe that Zodiac knew Darlene and Jim very well. Jim had a reddish brown crew cut at one time and he wore horn rimed glasses.At times his hair is very light. When one finds the real Zodiac, the evidence will fit without trying to make it fit. I am talking about physical and Forensic evidence, such as DNA, prints ,handwriting etc. It isn't going to matter if Zodiac was a satanist, construction worker or both. Darlene worked for a very short time at the phone company, it was her friend Bobbie who got her that job. Darlene and Jim moved about every three or four weeks, as told by Jim himself. Late 60's I worked in Vallejo at the night club where Darlene hung out, the Coronado Inn. I ate at Terry's where she worked, she and I dated the same Vallejo cop, Buzz Gordon. Her family has ID'd the man who has stalked me as the man who killed Darlene! They ID'd a picture I took of my stalker in Aug of 1990 as her killer. But they were misinformed of his name, they were told the name was Larry Kane, I was convinced that was the correct name, so I investigated Kane until he died. Then a few weeks/month later my suspect came by my home and that was when I realized his name could not be Larry Kane! I have his first name as Robert or Anthony/Tony. That doesn't prove that my suspect is in fact the Zodiac, although I truly believe that he is. It will be forensic evidence that ties my suspect to letters and Lake Berryessa, that will hopefully break the case. I am somewhat into astrology and numerology. (This month is my month) But I need to watch out for the lunar eclipse! According to what I have read ,there will be a end to a problem I have had for a very long time. Of course I am thinking that this could be the year Zodiac is caught!
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Post by Mia on Aug 19, 2018 11:45:01 GMT -8
I was just wondering if anyone else notice that it was always stated that Darlene and Mike was going to Mr Eds because they hadnt eaten all day and were starving, yet on Darlenes autopsy report it says that her stomach was full of undigested food. Not a big deal, but still shows she eat not long before.
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Post by Sandy on Aug 19, 2018 12:39:51 GMT -8
I was just wondering if anyone else notice that it was always stated that Darlene and Mike was going to Mr Eds because they hadnt eaten all day and were starving, yet on Darlenes autopsy report it says that her stomach was full of undigested food. Not a big deal, but still shows she eat not long before. Where did you read that they hadn't eaten all day? If she didn't eat with her sister on the boat that night, she could have had something at her parents house when she took her sister home? Mike never mentioned that they went to eat , he did say he thought they were followed from when she picked him up and were chased. But his story has changed so many times, that it is hard to believe when he his telling the truth. He is a admitted liar and thinks it is funny to make up stories. She went to her home to tell the babysitters she needed to do something and would give them a ride home when she got back. Maybe she grabbed a quick bite of food then? Did it say what the content was in her stomach?
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Post by GOLDEN on Mar 16, 2019 9:48:11 GMT -8
Anything sent in or mailed to the Newspapers or police after November of 1975 IS NOT THE ZODIAC KILLERS~!! Why..? He died on November 12th, 1975 which fell on a Wednesday. "MY THEORY" Darlene and Zodiac met some time in 1964. How..? I have my theory on that as well but that can be told at a later time. She got pregnant right away with his child. The problem with that is Darlene was only 16 years old at the time. Zodiac in his mid to late 50's. Zodiac being a prominent figure in society had to keep this hush hush no matter what. Being a Merchant Marine Captain would explain that. I believe she was a virgin at the time too. When Zodiac found out Darlenes real age it spun his rage out of control, Plus he was already in love with her. Darlene's parents definately would of pressed charges against him had they of found out..! Her parents were very very strict. That's putting it lightly. Zodiac had to keep this hush hush and had to get Darlene out of the country when she started to show. NOBODY COULD FIND THIS OUT NO MATTER WHAT~ She knew either Cheri Jo Bates or Donna Lass and they were flown to the Virgin Islands to help deliver their baby. Guess who took them to the airport..? Paul Stine the taxi driver. At first Darlene and Zodiac were to of given up the child but couldn't right away. Zodiac also being involved in CIA/OSS operations going on at this time too. These activities would take him to places and situations that took some time to do. Plus add to this his jobs as a Merchant Captain that would take him out to sea for long periods of time. Possibly up to a year or more at sea. Back then in the 1960's there was no telephone on ships. So communication was nil while out at sea. Communication was by letters. Or leave the ship and fly back to where ever~ communication back then was not like todays. I think one night while Zodiac was telling Darlene he had to go to work that she got suspicsious & decided to follow him. He was unaware of her following him. This is when Zodiac went to the Riverside college and killed Cheri Jo Bates. Darlene parked where he could not see him and this is when she witnessed a murder. This freaked her plum out and she quietly goes back home in fear. While Zodiac was gone at sea x 1 year paying ALL Darlenes bills ie; rent or house payments, & all the other bills by just sending her cash every month. When he came back in to Port he went to her old place where she lived and she was no longer there. He tries and tries to find her and can't. He carches a lead to where she is at sees her in Terrys pancake restaurants parking lot and pulls in and they argue. Just to suffice the Zodiac she tells him to go to her painting party she was having that night. He was clueless of her having another baby and getting married to Dean Ferrin at this point. He shows up at her place for the painting party(the well dressed older man) and this is when he found out that she had got married and had another child. This spun Zodiacs head all the way around with madness -! Prior to Dees painting party in Dec of 1968 when Betty Lou Jensen was murdered while Z was looking for Darlene, he sees her and thought it was Darlene. Follows the couple and kills them. MISTAKEN IDENTITY-! There's more to tell here but i'll post this for now and i'll be back to tell more. I have to go for now... my apologies....
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Post by Sandy on Mar 17, 2019 10:10:47 GMT -8
I feel that Darlene knew her killer and knew that he used the nick name Zodiac. That is why he didn't use the name Zodiac until after he killed her. Darlene knew how to sew, I wonder if she was the one who made the Zodiac costume for him at his request? Interesting find Ricardo, that the place Zodiac could have gotten his idea for his name and logo was next door to Frank's coffee shop. I understand that Frank was Darlene's uncle, who owned the home where Darlene and the mystery man's picture was taken. The mystery man looked exactly like her husband Jim Phillips. I have no doubt that it was the Zodiac watch that was the inspiration for Zodiac's name and logo. There is a pretty good chance that Zodiac was a diver like Jim and Darlene and that was a reason for the three of them to go to the Virgin Islands ,great diving waters there. The Zodiac watch is a divers watch. I agree with everything you wrote. I have no doubt that the man Darlene called Honcho, who went to the Virgin Islands with her and Jim , was her killer. She said she saw the man she was so afraid of kill someone in the Virgin Islands. If it wasn't Jim then it was probably Honcho. I also believe that when Jim was living in Mexico , it was with Honcho. Honcho may have been the man who brought Darlene gifts from Mexico? He was probably the "head honcho" in the counterfeit ring that Darlene was in at the time of her murder. He wasn't worried about her saying anything about what the group was into while she was in the group , but as soon as she got her home she wanted out, that was when she had to be silenced. The word Mexico was brought up too many times for it not to have some sort of a connection. Gifts were brought to Darlene from there, Zodiac said he was headed to Mexico just before stabbing Bryan and Cecelia.
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