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Post by Sandy on Nov 26, 2018 9:54:46 GMT -8
Thank you for bringing this information up. Lyndon was a dear friend of mine and taught me a little about code breaking. He knew I had a interest in the 340. Lyndon worked for the highway patrol in Vallejo. His suspect was William Joseph Grant, who lived in Fairfield and other surrounding areas. Grant worked in real estate and had a office in Fairfield. Grant had a drinking problem and went to AA meetings, on Friday nights (I believe they were Friday's?) My suspect also had a drinking problem and that could be how he may have known WJG?
I found another William J Grant living in Vallejo on Springs road in the late 60's and let Lyndon know about him. It has always been my contention that the person who was playing games on the highway with Lyndon , was the true Zodiac. And that he somehow had access to WJG's car. It was those road games played by Zodiac , that caused WJG to become Lyndon's Zodiac suspect.
It was obvious to me that the real Zodiac would not use his own car to play road games with a CHP officer, who could traced the license plate number to his front door!
I knew that Zodiac had to know WJG well enough to use his car to try to frame him for his crimes. He made sure that he had the same very curly brown hair style that Grant wore. My suspect that I refer to as "Honcho" had that same hair style in the winter of 1968, I was able to out smart him when he started to follow me in Vallejo in the winter of 1968.
The music that played once in the back ground ,when I received a phone call from who I now believe was Zodiac, could have been the Mikado? It wasn't anything that I had ever heard before. It was not rock and roll . jazz, pop or country. I was living in Clayton at the time of that call.
I bought Lyndon's book and believe that a lot of the things that Lyndon found were clues that Zodiac had left near Grants home, to make a more solid case against Grant. Grant was about 10 to 15 yrs older than the age of Zodiac. Grant had a very heavy Massachusetts accent, which we know Zodiac did not have. I never disputed with Lyndon about his suspect, but did mention that Grant may have known Honcho. I am curious as to who it was, who used Grants name to rent things from the library?
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Post by hogan pc on Nov 27, 2018 6:12:10 GMT -8
So if he was playing "games" with the CHP why was he not pulled over by Lyndon and an armada of backup patrolmen?
Just askin.
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Post by Sandy on Nov 27, 2018 12:23:15 GMT -8
You have to have a reason to pull someone over. Just because the guy was on the opposite side of the free way and traded places when Lyndon went to the side he saw the guy just moments before , is not reason enough to give him a ticket or call for back up. The idea that the man driving Grants car and parked so close to Lyndon's patrol car, was what got Lyndon's attention.
It was after that incident that Lyndon traced the plate number to WJG, he then started to investigate him. Some of the pieces of the puzzle started to come together for Lyndon, that is when Grant became his suspect.
From what I know about Grant and the Zodiac case, I think the circumstantial evidence against WJG is very weak. Grant had a heavy accent, Zodiac did not have one, that alone would have eliminated WJG for me. I do believe the driver of Grant's car was the Zodiac having fun with Lyndon.
Grant was allegedly bi-sexual, could Zodiac have been one of Grants lovers ? My suspect is a cross dresser, did that make him Gay? ( I have no idea.)
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Post by Sandy on Apr 29, 2019 9:38:36 GMT -8
I often have lunch with Lyndon's friend Jerry who once worked for the FBI. He did a lot of investigating on William Grant.
We had lunch again last month and I was told that VPD have excluded Grant as a possible Zodiac suspect. I had told Jerry to send in Grants DNA once again to VPD ,NPD and SFPD, so they compare to what they have. That was about four months ago.
He was told by VPD it is not a match to the Zodiac's DNA that they have. That tells me I was right, they do have Zodiac's DNA!
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Post by Sandy on Jun 4, 2019 12:10:52 GMT -8
I have been reading Lyndon's book "The Zodiac Cover up". I came across page 292 and 293 that shows that Lyndon went to Vallejo Library and also Fairfield , where someone using William Grants name took out the Mikado LP 10 times between Feb 68 and March 70. At the Fairfield Library The Code Breakers book was taken out 12 times between Feb 68 and Aug 69.
Lyndon had the handwriting checked by an expert who said that was not a match to William J Grants writing.
This backs up my theory of the person playing road games with CHP officer Lyndon Lafferty , not being William J Grant, but someone who pretended to be him and using his car to play the games that he did with Lyndon. Even making sure that he had the same Afro style hair that WJG had at that time. ( Remember the man who followed me in Vallejo / Napa, he had his hair in a Afro.
I never believed that William J Grant would do that with his own car and a plate number that would lead Lyndon to his front door. Zodiac was not stupid , but he would play that sort of game and drive someone else's car, certainly not his own car!
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Post by SnoopyStef on Jan 18, 2021 21:37:23 GMT -8
So who was in William Grants circle of friends.
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Post by Guest Name on Mar 3, 2021 5:45:33 GMT -8
You have to have a reason to pull someone over. Just because the guy was on the opposite side of the free way and traded places when Lyndon went to the side he saw the guy just moments before , is not reason enough to give him a ticket or call for back up. The idea that the man driving Grants car and parked so close to Lyndon's patrol car, was what got Lyndon's attention. It was after that incident that Lyndon traced the plate number to WJG, he then started to investigate him. Some of the pieces of the puzzle started to come together for Lyndon, that is when Grant became his suspect. From what I know about Grant and the Zodiac case, I think the circumstantial evidence against WJG is very weak. Grant had a heavy accent, Zodiac did not have one, that alone would have eliminated WJG for me. I do believe the driver of Grant's car was the Zodiac having fun with Lyndon. Grant was allegedly bi-sexual, could Zodiac have been one of Grants lovers ? My suspect is a cross dresser, did that make him Gay? ( I have no idea.) Crossdressers aren't gay. |
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Post by Ninecrows333 on Mar 13, 2021 0:14:31 GMT -8
Hi there,
I've thought much about the same when it comes to WJG, lots of things lead to him and whoever Zodiac was he knew enough to be able to convince Lyndon and others he was the Zodiac but I think it's possible LE realized this too and that Zodiac was in some way in WJG's circle. I have always felt that the calls to Darlene's family from WJG's house was Zodiac as was the case in the car chase with Lyndon and due to WJG being in the AA have thought there may be a connection there as in the case of another Zodiac suspect ALA, some evidence pointed towards him too and I wonder if Zodiac did this to throw LE off his tracks by giving them lines of enquiry he knew would divert their attention.
I've been wondering if there could be a connection through Darlene's first husband Jim Phillips due to his aloof nature. Another possible avenue that intrigues me is the drama connection, I read that Darlene knew Cecilia Shepherd through a drama group they both attended, Betty Lou was also said to be involved in drama/music. Could Zodiac have been involved in this kind of group? I find it interesting you mention Zodiac possibly Crossdressing and due to the theater side of things I have thought that some other murders thought to be connected had items missing such as coats, handbags, wigs etc and often thought that putting these clothes on could be another side to Zodiac
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