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Post by Ricardo on May 7, 2014 7:56:56 GMT -8
Hello, Sandy!
I would like to do an online interview with you about the Zodiac case.
Anyone can join in and ask questions as we go along.
I hope you are not tired of telling your story because each time you tell it, it is possible that there will be something that will be beneficial.
People who are new to the Zodiac case may not realize that you have been involved with it since it began.
What do you think we should talk about first?
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Post by Sandy on May 7, 2014 15:54:37 GMT -8
Well Ricardo I never get tired of telling my story. I want as many people to know about it as I can. Someone I hope, will connect the dots and realize that my suspect/suspects can be none other than thee true real Zodiac. Like all of the other suspects, they were found by people looking for the Zodiac. Unlike them, I didn't look for him he found me. So I think we should start from what I think was the beginning, I said from what I think was the beginning, because it could have started sooner, when I was living in Southern Calif. early 60's. But the first time that I actually saw his face, was in the winter of 1968 around the time of the lake Herman Rd shooting.
I was working as an waitress and bartender at Flamingo Joe's Vallejo. I got off work early, so I could pick up my paycheck from the Melody Lounge on Sonoma Blvd Vallejo. The same person owned both places so I would work at both. I also would work at the Coronado Inn for a different owner.
It was about 1am when I left Flamingo Joe's to go to the Melody for my paycheck. When I walked in some guy friends that I knew from Richmond called me over to have a drink and talk. I picked up my check and sat with the 3 guys for about 20 minutes it was about closing time so they walked me out to my car. Thank goodness they stood there while I tried to start it, it would not turn over. I knew a lot about cars because I used to watch my father work on cars and would ask him lots of questions about the cars. I asked the guys if they could check under my hood to see if my coil wire was ok ? They looked and commented : What are you Psychic ? Your coil wire is gone ! They knew I needed to go home to Napa and so they took one out of someone else’s car and put it in mine. I thanked them and drove off towards Napa, when I noticed that I was perhaps being followed. I felt I could lose whomever this person was who stayed behind me about an 8th of a mile back. As I got to my turn off on Imola ave, next to Napa state Hospital. I knew that there was a dip in the road that might hide my low tail lights (I was driving a older Pont. Bonneville). I turned right and drove like a bat out of Hell ! I thought I had lost him but kept driving fast just the same. I needed to turn on Navarre st but couldn't do that safely because of the speed, so I turned left the next block. I then turned off my lights and made another left onto my street. When I saw a car with its lights still on ,parked across the street from my home. No One in my neighborhood would be up that late and I never saw that car before .I wanted to see who this person was, so I kept my lights off and pulled up alongside of him . He was looking at my driveway as if to say where is she ? When I looked at his face I saw it before he contorted it in a insane way ! It was so scary I knew it would not be safe for me to try and run to my front door. This guy looked as if he hated me ! I thought that my ex-husband had hired a hit man to kill me, so he wouldn't have to pay child support for our three children. I kept on driving back towards town where there were two officers in two police cars talking at the gas station on the corner of soscal and Imola. I got out of my car and was telling then what had happened , when the same car came across Soscal behind that gas station. There was a all-night pancake house there. I pointed at him as he crossed, he looked at me talking to the officers. It didn't seem to bother him, he still drove into the lot of the restaurant. One officer told the other : Joe you go check that guy out and I will follow her home to make sure she is safe. A few months later Darlene and Mike were shot in Vallejo. Mike said the shooters car was light brown and very much like a Falcon. That fit the same car that had followed me from Vallejo, so I called Napa PD and asked if they got the man’s name that followed me in the report that night ? The woman I spoke to found a report, but it didn't show the name of the man. I didn't think to tell her that there could be two reports, because there were two officers
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Post by Sandy on May 8, 2014 23:48:38 GMT -8
That phone call to Napa Pd was made in July 1969. Not too much went on that I was aware of ,other than my eldest teenage daughter was on the phone one day with one of her school friends. As they were talking her friend heard the family’s other phone ring, so she went to answer it. When she came back , she said that a man on the phone told her that he was the Zodiac ! I don’t remember what else was said about that call, but both the friend and my daughter were frightened by that call. I have no idea if that call was reported or not? And I don’t remember if that call was before or after the Lake Berryessa case. Probably after, because we weren’t thinking much about Zodiac, until after Sept 69. (That was when we realized there was a serial killer on the loose in our area!)
Sometime during that summer in 1969 ,it must have been my day off because I was sitting outside, instead of getting ready for work. I was sitting on the lawn in the front yard, it had to be a warm day, because I had on shorts and was sitting in an inflated car tire tube. My next door neighbor Betty and I were talking, when my husband pulled into the driveway , he then walked over to us and said to me : Who in the world would steal a clothes line? I hadn’t even noticed that it was gone, it was to the right of our driveway along our side yard, where he could see most of it was missing.
Our sons diapers weren’t taken thank goodness, that was the only section of clothes line still there. I had to replace it, so I bought more at the store on Imola across from the State hospital about one mile or less from my home, that was where I had bought the other one.
My neighbors and I use to talk about the patients escaping, but we felt that if and when they did, that they would go as far away as they could, at least that is what we believed.
Later I heard that a woman on a block not far from my home had been murdered, I think the street was Marie ? I never did check that out and I really should, the next time I go to Napa. There was a shooting a few doors from my home, a woman shot her husband and then shot herself. She lived, because her heart was contracting at the time the bullet entered her body barely missing her heart.
Saturday Sept 27th, My husband and I were both working in Vallejo on that night, my shift started at 6pm so I probably left the house about 5 or 5:15pm. I would work until 2am. My daughter babysat her brothers, she took very good care of them. But that night about 8:30 or 9 while my daughter was changing the baby’s diaper in the bedroom , someone was knocking on the front door ,at that same time my son who was four was crying ,because he had hurt his head. She ran into the kitchen to get her brother and then answer the door. There was a man at the door, he told my daughter that he was there to look at the house because he had heard it was for sale . My home was not for sale !
My son had some blood on his head ,so the man offered to take him to the hospital , because he said that it looked serious . My children got into the man’s car who had a woman with him and went to Queen of the Valley hospital, in his black Cadillac . It wasn’t until later that we found out that there had been two victims brought into that same hospital, from Lake Berryessa who had been stabbed.
The next day or the day after was my day off as was my husband. He went to the Soscal House a few miles south west of our home, to have a couple of drinks and roll dice with his friends . I didn’t feel like staying home that day without a car and asked Betty if she could give me a ride to get it? I got my baby ready , who was 8months old at the time and Betty drove us to pick up the car. She got out to help carry the things I needed for the baby. The windows were down in the car, because it was very warm that day, we saw that there was stuff all over the back seat and on the floor behind the driver’s seat. I opened the door to the back and picked up a black cotton cloth off of the seat, it had a strange design on the front of it that I thought looked Asian, it was a white circle with a cross on top of it or over it. The black cotton material was about a yard and a half long and 36 inches wide. It had a hole with a slit towards the back ,so it would fit over someone’s head, there was a wad of black paper on the floor behind the passenger’s seat. So I picked it up and opened it to see what the heck it was ? It was like a mask that covered one’s head completely ,it was made from a paper sack and had large round holes for the eyes. I don’t remember if there was a hole for the mouth and nose or not. It was square and flat on top just like a grocery bag, there were four 3 inch cuts at the bottom, that were bent to sit on a person’s shoulders. It must have been an early Halloween costume is what I thought . As I drove back home I noticed an awful stench filling the car ! It was the paper sack, whatever was used to make it black was making the bad smell. So I had to throw it away in the garbage can as soon as I got home.
Once I got home I looked at everything that was put in the car. There was a neat stack of things on the floor behind the driver’s seat. On the bottom of the stack was an old dictionary, on top of that was a green plastic template with letters of the alphabet on it and 4 circle cut outs from small to larger underneath the letters. It had been used, because I could see the dark ink inside the block letters. Next to the dictionary was a ruler from Heald’s collage and two erasers one small pink one, the other was light gray and larger. On top of the plastic was an ammo can filled with felt tipped pens, like perhaps an artist would have, except most of the pens were very dark, one was orange or red, one was white. At the bottom of the ammo can were 3 earrings, one of them was screw on with a small cross and a girls Timex watch with a thin gray leather band. A silver colored protractor was also inside the can with a small pencil at one end .Also at the bottom was a tiny Catholic mass book, the page that would have the owners name on it was torn off.
On the back seat was a clear plastic name tag with the name Daniel Perez inside on white paper. When my husband came home I asked him if he gave someone a ride because there were some strange things in the back seat ? He said no, no one had been in the car except him and he didn’t see anything in the back seat when he got in to drive.
So then I thought some guy who was drunk or stoned, mistook our car for his and put it all there.
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Post by Sandy on May 22, 2014 23:56:20 GMT -8
Vallejo springtime 1969, my soon to be ex and myself leased Jay’s Governor’s room on Sonoma Blvd across from James Sear’s where Darlene was starting to buy her very expensive clothes. Where she got the money to do that, was something that her family didn’t understand but had a bad feeling about.
On Saturday Nights my husband would hire a bartender to do his job, I was the waitress and would have to keep an eye on the bartenders to make sure they weren’t tapping the till. My husband would go to the Vallejo Speedway, to offer the winner of the main event and his crew free drinks at out bar after the races. I was still filling in at the Coronado Inn, the money was good there , it was always crowded with people who would come from as far away as Oakland , San Francisco, Yountville, sailor’s from all over the world, Vallejo was a Navy town. In the 60’s Vietnam war was still going on, we felt a lot of sadness for the loss of these young men who were defending our country. I lost my brother in law who re- enlisted in 1969.
July 1st 69 my father died unexpectedly at Kaiser hospital, he had gone in for a hernia operation and died the day before coming home, from what I was told was a blood clot.I thought it was unusual for him to be found with his arm up reaching for the buzzer to get help. I didn’t think that one would know that a clot had moved to the lungs and would have enough time to ring for help ? I was devastated be on belief, my husband and I went to Walnut creek to stay by my mother’s side until after my father was buried . So for those of you who have the feeling that my husband could have been Zodiac, he was with me in Walnut Creek on July 5th.
Our lease was up at Jay’s Governor’s Room , but a few of my friends still like to go there to drink, one of them was Don Porter who I had dated . I had no idea he was in the counterfeit ring that was going on in Vallejo during that time. He was being watched by the Fed’s, they were watching him in the bar ,while he lit ladies cigarettes with $20.00 bills ! They arrested him that night and found a lot more of the phony bills in the trunk of his car. I had no idea he was doing this and was stealing cars chopping them up repainting them to sell along with this group of people he was in on it with. I remember one afternoon he and I were going to San Francisco, he had to see someone there. His roommate was on the porch ,Don said to him that we were headed to San Francisco but he needed to stop by Dee’s place to pick up something or drop something off ? His roommate who was short stalky man in his 30’s with brown curly hair , who like to play the piano, screamed at Don in an odd strained sounding scream: I TOLD YOU TO NEVER SAY THAT NAME EVER ! I would not have remembered that name, if it weren’t for that man making such a scene.
In early October 69 I got a day time job in Rutherford working at Mondovi winery. While I was there, a movie was being filmed for CBS Thursday night movie, the star of the movie was Burt Reynolds ! I didn’t know who he was, it was before he became famous. I had a hard time not staring at him , what a hunk ! The next day the director asked me if I would like to be in the movie ? I said I would if I could have one of my friends join me, so we both were in the movie.
While we were waiting for our scene we were in a room with Burt and a few other actors. I am not sure how I ended up with Burt lifting me up above his head and sliding me slowly down, close to his body. He said in a low voice while looking at me nose to nose : You are one healthy girl. I still remember that moment as if it were yesterday. I was only an extra but was a “key” extra, meaning I had a bit part. There were lots of extras in the movie , some of it was filmed in St Helena, Santa Rosa, Lake Berryessa. I now wonder if Zodiac could have been there as an extra or just watching ? I wish I had the un-cut version of the movie, it was first going to be named “The Return”, then it became “Hunters are for killing”, now it is “Hard Frame”. Burt asked for my phone number and a date, unfortunately I again had my friend with me and because she was so slow getting ready I was late for my date with Burt. He was nice about it and said we would have a rain check date. I did receive one letter from him around 1970 or 71 I still have that letter but not the envelope. I didn’t know at the time, but Burt ended up having a stalker about the same time I had one, of course I had no idea at that time I had one.
My divorce was about final , the children and I moved away from Napa to Rio Vista where their father had moved, so they wouldn’t be too far from him. I got a job at the Spindrift Marina Restaurant on the San Joaquin river 3 days a week, the other 4, I spent fishing with my children . I started getting phone calls and could hear someone breathing, but whomever it was would never say anything. Then the car kept having odd problems, like the oil filter can would fall off while I was driving and all of the oil would leak out. Or my tire would be flat while I was parked at my apartment. I was still going to Vallejo to the Coronado Inn at night from time to time. Still seeing Buzz Gordon a cop that I started to date while I was working in Vallejo 1969. We dated for about five yrs, not knowing he was married at that time. Then finding out that he had gone out with Darlene Ferrin and was a Zodiac suspect ! He and I would be in his squad car , go to the areas where we thought the Zodiac might go, so we could catch him. He would have his 9 mil. ready just in case Zodiac showed up. I actually offered myself as a decoy to Vallejo PD. They told me that they had no idea when or where Zodiac would strike again and that they didn’t have the money or man power to do that. I look back on that now and how foolish I was for making that offer. I always wanted to work in law enforcment and bust drug dealers or work at solving murders. That started in the 50's with the case of Stephanie Bryan who was kidnapped from Berkeley then murdered. To this day I do not feel that Burton Abbott was her killer.
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Post by Sandy on Jun 7, 2014 8:07:17 GMT -8
My father who worked in Oakland but would drive through the Berkeley hills and past Stephanie Bryant's street to get home in Walnut Creek, reported seeing something or someone suspicious pertaining to that case. He gave the police a description of a car with a young girl in it. That in turn made my father a suspect. He never offered any information ever again to police! I have no idea if the person he turned in retaliated against our family and is the man who plays these child like games with me now or not ? We did have a prowler in the 50's who would go into our back yard and run a stick along side the wooden slats to make a ticking sound. I can remember when ever I was home alone , I would hold our 22 rifle, just in case the person tried to break in. Could he be the same person today ? I don't know.
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Post by Sandy on Jun 17, 2014 20:54:01 GMT -8
While still living in Rio Vista and working only 3 days a week. My car at that time was a 1967 Firebird. I was still having problems with the oil filter falling off now and then and my breaks kept going out. One night when I had a few female friends with me, the breaks went out and we almost ended up in the river! The phone calls were still coming at night from someone who would never speak, only breathing could be heard. I don’t think that I was thinking that it was the man I got away from in Vallejo a few yrs before , I thought by moving he wouldn’t know where I was, so I wasn’t worried. There was a handsome guy named Ralph who seemed sort of distant ,who would come in on Saturday nights.
He was very different than most of the men who came in who would flirt with me, he was the opposite and it sort of bothered me. I wondered why he didn’t seem to like me?
Then one night he came in, I walked over to him and asked what he would like to have ? He said I would like to marry you ! I thought it was pretty funny that he who was so cool towards me, was interested after all. I joked back with well sure I am not busy when I get off work. We started to date and became engaged months later. He had a boat and would take my children with him to fish and swim.
Ralph would tell me odd stories about when he was a frogman in the Navy and how he could reach under a man’s ribcage, pull out the man’s heart, show it to him before he died, I was not impressed ! One day when he was at my apartment and we were cooking game hens, he said something that was disturbing to my daughter, I don’t remember what it was but it upset her. His friend was there as well and we were doing handwriting analysis after dinner, my daughter made the comment : Jeez Ralph you write just like the Zodiac ! She was right it did look like the Zodiac’s writing that we saw in the newspaper. It was sometime later when his friend was telling me a story about when three of them were boating at Lake Berryessa and that when they woke up one morning Ralph had a hood on his head. Now that was becoming too much for me to keep to myself. And after all Ralph had told me how he planned at one time to kill his ex wife ( But Didn’t or so he claimed )He had also said to me that one of his fantasy’s was to commit the perfect murder. By now I knew I had to get out of this relationship ! Meanwhile I called Dave Toschi and told him everything I knew about Ralph, Dave asked me to get some of Ralph’s handwriting and send it to him. I wanted to get away from him as fast as I could without upsetting him. So I told him that I had a modeling offer in southern Calif. He said that if I took that job, he wouldn’t be with me. As far as he knew I took the job. Toschi called to let me know that Ralph had only one DUI arrest and that his picture was a lot like what Zodiac was known to look like. Ralph knew how much money was on Zodiac’s head at that time, I thought that was interesting that he would know that ?
Now it is 1971 or 72 , my friend Verna and I decided to go over the bridge east towards the Spindrift Marina where I worked, to a place just past the Spindrift, for a few games of Poole. We liked the game and both were very good at it.
For whatever reason instead of going east over the bridge I drove to Verna’s house, perhaps to use the rest room ? Within a couple of minutes of being there, my daughter called to say that a bomb went off near the Spindrift Marina and that they were evacuating everyone off of the island ! Luck was with us, because we would have been right on top of the explosion had we not stopped at Verna’s first.
Whatever it was, it blew a hole in the road 12 feet wide and 12 feet deep. It swept the boats in the marina away from the births , people where on top of their roofs to keep from drowning. It flooded the corn fields and the water went all the way to Stockton. My boyfriend who owned the Spindrift never understood what caused that to happen ? The year before on the 4th of July both of his restaurants were started on fire with in a hour of each other, one was the Spindrift the other was near Sacramento called the Captains table.( That was very suspicious to me.)
Sometime before the flood , someone took a shot at him from the levy road. Still I don’t think I gave any thought to my secret admirer being behind all of these strange happenings ? I was now out of work because of the flood, but thank goodness I was known to be a good waitress, I received a call from the owner of the Sugar Barge , asking if I would work for him? So I started right away working there 3 or 4 nights a week.
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Post by Sandy on Jun 24, 2014 10:16:29 GMT -8
I moved from Rio vista, to Clayton and rented a home with three other girls, I believe the yr was 1973 . While we were looking for a place to rent we went through a real-estate agent. He showed us a place that was once rented by some members of the SLA ! We didn’t want to take that one LOL. So we took one in Clayton on Claycord st.
While living there, I worked at a place in Pleasant Hill named Rick’s lounge. It was a huge place that had live music , it sat in a mall with a large parking lot. A friend I went to school with owned it. One night I got off work just before closing time, I saw a man in a station wagon sitting across the parking lot who waved . I waved back thinking he was a customer who was leaving as well. He pulled out when I did and ended up behind me , I had a feeling that he might be planning on following me? So when I got out of the parking lot and was at the stop light I decided to make a U-turn back into the parking lot.
The man behind me did the same, so now I know for sure he was following me. I parked my car near the front door to Rick’s and ran towards the door , the man stepped on the gas to try and run me over ! His hair was light and in a crew-cut, I don’t remember his face, but remember he looked older than me. His station wagon had the wooden panels with a rack on top, a conservative looking car unlike what a young person would be driving. I didn’t connect this incident with my secret admirer either. Unless he had different wigs , he didn’t look like the man in Vallejo 1968 who had dark brown hair.
While still living on Claycord in Clayton, the girls and I noticed a man hanging around in an orange VW, he would just be sitting in his car near our home. I remember his face as being real red looking, more than just flushed, maybe a skin condition like a rash ?
We started to get the same sort of calls that I had received when I lived in Napa and Rio Vista, just someone breathing on the other end. Then one day there was a voice that said : I just want you to know , I know where you live.
I could hear music playing in the background, but it wasn’t anything that I recognized. It wasn’t Rock and Roll , country or Jazz.
By then I was dating Mike , someone who was in my life up until a few yrs ago. We maintained a friendship for many yrs , until he married. But one day stood out that I still can’t forget. We had spent the night together in Concord at his place and in the morning while Mike was in the shower, I was still in bed waiting for my turn to shower. I heard a slight noise at the window that was about 6 feet from the bed. I opened my eyes and saw a large muscular hairy arm coming through the open window ! I let out a scream and the man left. Mike tried to see if he could see anything out the window, but the man was out of sight. Could that be the same person who was harassing me ? How could one person have so many strange things happening ? No one I know of has had anything even remotely close to what I had going on, even now it only happens to me and Pam Huckaby. Not so much her anymore, she is in a gated community , in another state.
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Post by Sandy on Jul 7, 2014 8:08:10 GMT -8
About 1973 I had saved up enough money to put a down payment on a condo in Walnut Creek off of Ygnacio Valley rd. It was very close to Heather farms park ,it was once owned by Bing Crosby. Later remembered for an abduction site of a young girl on a bike who has never been found. That took place while I was living there she was a school mate of my son at that time. (Her name escape’s me at the moment)
By now I am at Pier 29 family Restaurant in Oakland, working for the same owner of the Spindrift restaurant Harry Schilling Sr. Only now I am working 5 nights a week instead of 3.
Still seeing Harry Jr, Bill Curtis the lighting director from time to time, three guys named Mike and Jack who is a great guitar player ! He plays like Wes Montgomery who was one of the greatest ever. Jack was the one who took me to see “The Exorcist” in San Francisco when it first came out. We are still friends and stay in touch.
A little side story you might enjoy reading . The Boarding House in S.F. was a place Jack and I went to many times. That was where I was introduced to George Benson who became a famous jazz guitar player. We had friends that lived in the Marina district of S.F. and this one girl who adored George’s music was celebrating her 21st birthday, so we asked George if he would like to go to the party and surprise this young lady ? He came with us and it was so much fun listening to his stories about growing up, I think he said Chicago ? His father played guitar and taught George to play at the age of four ! He said the guitar was bigger than he was at that time. We asked him why he hadn’t thought about singing on one of his albums ? Not sure what he said about that , but his next album was “Masquerade” and he sings on that album.
I was at Jack’s apt on Ashby Ave in Berkeley, the night Patty Hurst was kidnaped just a couple of blocks away. (Another SLA connection)
One night driving home from Pier 29 I noticed someone was behind me for a long time, so thinking I am being followed again, I remembered reading that it is a good idea to drive to a police station. So when I got to Walnut Creek I drove to the police station and starting to honk the horn to get help. That worked right away an officer came to the car, I told him that an orange VW was following me all the way from Oakland and should be showing up in a second. The person following me must not have known Walnut Creek very well, or he would have known that is where the police station is located.( It is down town Walnut Creek) They spoke to the man in the VW who said yes he followed me because he liked me, but meant no harm. He said that he was from the Alameda Navy base. They sent him on his way and I drove to my apt.
I always looked in my rear view mirror to make sure I wasn’t being followed and still do that.
The odd phone calls were still coming , not sure if I connected them to all of the other calls or not ? One call was a man who said that he was doing a thesis and needed to ask me questions. I forgot everything he asked, but the questions became uncomfortable and I knew who ever this man was he wasn’t nice person. He started asking me about my daughter who was 16 yrs old. I wanted to get this person caught and tried to set him up. I called the police and told them everything, the man was never caught.
Could that man be the one who is bothering me still ? I have no way of knowing for sure. If he was my stalker was he upset at all the guys I dated, did he think I was a lot like Darlene ?
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Post by Sandy on Jul 22, 2014 11:33:30 GMT -8
1975 I met someone fell in love and married him two yrs later. He lied to me about his age and over time he became 14 yrs younger than I. He is the one who taught me all about guns and how to shoot. We joined the American Sportsman club and went hunting/fishing/camping when ever we had a chance. My children loved the camping part of it. That wasn't so new to me , I grew up camping with my parents and went up to to Lake Berryessa camping many times, also on the coast at Jenner and Fort Bragg . Berryessa was where I learned how to water ski.
From 1977 - 1982 my name was changed and I had moved from Walnut Creek, so I was not bothered during that time . The only bad thing that took place was with one of my best friends Dana, who moved about the same time as I did to the town of Antioch. I do interior decorating and my friend Dana wanted me to wallpaper her Kitchen. We each borrowed 3 wallpaper books to take to her home, so we could pick out which would look the best. She was so happy about buying her first home at the age of only 24.
That was about three days before her parents found her body on the kitchen floor, on my birthday.
The night before I had received a phone call about 9:30 pm , no one spoke so I hung up and took the phone off of the hook that way we could get some sleep without anymore calls.
It was the next day that I was told from my other friend that Dana was dead. It was made to look like a suicide , she was shot with a 22 which she owned for protection. The gun was found in her living room near the front door, her body was in the kitchen several feet away. Her phone was found off the hook.
Dana's mother asked if we would clean up the kitchen floor where her body was found, we did. I also fixed Dana's hair for her funeral, that was when I noticed that someone had cut her hair ? I was the one who she would ask to cut her hair and it was longer the last time I saw her which was only a few day before. While I was sitting at her kitchen table looking out onto the road below I happened to see a man looking up at us as he was driving by. He had curly dark brown hair with a round face that reminded me of the man from vallejo in 1968. It was almost a surprised look he had on his face when he saw us there. Could he be the one who killed our dear friend and made it look like a suicide? It was because her home was locked that Antioch police believed she killed herself. The patio door had a automatic pen that would lock it if you closed it ! Did the police ever ask her friends any questions about Dana , no they did not.
But then that is the same police department who spoke to Jaycee Dugard yrs before she was discovered living in Antioch all those yrs with the creep Phillip Garrido ( Not sure of the spelling ).Do I believe Dana was murdered, of course I do , she was very happy and had a lot to look forward to. Who plans on decorating their brand new home and shoots themselves instead ?
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Post by Sandy on Aug 7, 2014 21:47:43 GMT -8
My young husband was a bit spoiled by his mother, she gave him anything he wanted, so he didn’t have much incentive to work. I was earning enough to take care of all of us. Because my credit was very good he bought a boat without mentioning it to me. Which made me responsible for all of the payments, I was not happy about that.
It was about 5 yrs into that marriage when I had a feeling that he was straying. One was the UPS delivery person who delivered my packages ! I checked the mileage on his truck every day when left for work. Each time there was 24 miles on his truck, so I knew she had to live about 12 miles away. Long story short I filed for divorce, filled his boat with his clothes and sent him home to his mother.
I changed my name back to Betts, it wasn’t long before the odd phone calls started up again. Thank goodness I kept some of the guns that I had bought .
I started to notice someone following me again, he was clever, he would park at different areas that I would drive by and then he would pull out and follow. A few times he would wait on the side of the highway and then pull out thinking that I didn’t notice. One was a Chevy truck with a gun rack , it held a large rifle.
I memorized many of the license plate numbers, when one day I spotted one older green car with a plate I had seen before. This time I followed him, it was veterans day late 80’s.
Three or four days later, I was in Lyons restaurant drinking coffee talking to my friend who tended bar there, when my car alarm went off. One of the waitresses knew my car and told me it was going off. Something told me it was a ploy for me to go outside, so I went to the door and used my clicker to shut the alarm off. About an hour later I left to go to Alameda, to do some work at one of my friend’s homes, before going to work in Oakland.
As I got to the tunnel that separated Orinda / Oakland, I heard a shot but wasn’t sure if it was a backfire or not ? Then half way into the tunnel I heard another shot, this time I knew it was gun fire, so I started to weave enough to hopefully miss the bullet . As I was coming out of the tunnel the last shot rang out.
Then I saw him in an older very pretty blue Cad convertible. He drove past me pretty fast, so I didn’t get the plate number that time. I knew better than to try and catch up with him, he headed towards Hayward. I noticed that someone on a motorcycle who was in the tunnel had pulled up to a CHP officer who was giving someone else a ticket. I felt he reported the shots.
When I got to my friends home in Alameda I called to make sure that was reported and was told others had reported it. A few months later I wanted to get a copy of the report and was told that because no one was hurt so it wasn’t kept.
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Post by Sandy on Sept 10, 2014 19:00:34 GMT -8
This is a bit off of my story but interesting just the same. I have been getting the strange calls again every night for the past 3 nights. This evening Pam H called me (Darlene's sister) She said that with in minutes of our phone conversation last week, she received a call from a man that sounded as if he had something in his mouth while he was talking to her. What he told her was that if she continued to talk to me, he would kill her dog. She is very upset, because the last time she was warned about talking to me, her Dog Joey was shot in the head with a 22.
Something has stirred this person up again,I don't know what it could be ? I haven't been posting much at all because I have been too busy.
Why is he so worried that Pam and I talk ? I told Pam that the reason he sounds like he has food in his mouth is because he is slightly paralized on one side of his face.It has been discribed as a drawl but not a southern drawl.
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Post by Jeanne on Sept 15, 2014 9:55:52 GMT -8
Hi Sandy, regarding your post of Sept. 10, 2014 8:00 pm, ask your friend Pam if she has caller ID and if not, the phone company will have the number of the person that called her. This should be reported to police as a threat(especially because something did happen to her before). Ask the police and phone company to find out who the telephone number belongs to.
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Post by Sandy on Sept 15, 2014 18:07:32 GMT -8
Hello Jeanne, Thank you for your concern . She and I have delt with this for way too long. We both have caller ID , this person uses a throw away phone, where it can not be traced. We both have has the phone company put traces on our phones, yet he hasn't been caught.
The past two weeks someone is calling from a phone with the number 925 000-0000.
who gets a phone with zero's for a number ?
He is so child like, it is hard to believe he is an adult.
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Post by Kase on Nov 30, 2014 0:33:43 GMT -8
While still living in Rio Vista and working only 3 days a week. My car at that time was a 1967 Firebird. I was still having problems with the oil filter falling off now and then and my breaks kept going out. One night when I had a few female friends with me, the breaks went out and we almost ended up in the river! The phone calls were still coming at night from someone who would never speak, only breathing could be heard. I don’t think that I was thinking that it was the man I got away from in Vallejo a few yrs before , I thought by moving he wouldn’t know where I was, so I wasn’t worried. There was a handsome guy named Ralph who seemed sort of distant ,who would come in on Saturday nights. He was very different than most of the men who came in who would flirt with me, he was the opposite and it sort of bothered me. I wondered why he didn’t seem to like me? Then one night he came in, I walked over to him and asked what he would like to have ? He said I would like to marry you ! I thought it was pretty funny that he who was so cool towards me, was interested after all. I joked back with well sure I am not busy when I get off work. We started to date and became engaged months later. He had a boat and would take my children with him to fish and swim. Ralph would tell me odd stories about when he was a frogman in the Navy and how he could reach under a man’s ribcage, pull out the man’s heart, show it to him before he died, I was not impressed ! One day when he was at my apartment and we were cooking game hens, he said something that was disturbing to my daughter, I don’t remember what it was but it upset her. His friend was there as well and we were doing handwriting analysis after dinner, my daughter made the comment : Jeez Ralph you write just like the Zodiac ! She was right it did look like the Zodiac’s writing that we saw in the newspaper. It was sometime later when his friend was telling me a story about when three of them were boating at Lake Berryessa and that when they woke up one morning Ralph had a hood on his head. Now that was becoming too much for me to keep to myself. And after all Ralph had told me how he planned at one time to kill his ex wife ( But Didn’t or so he claimed )He had also said to me that one of his fantasy’s was to commit the perfect murder. By now I knew I had to get out of this relationship ! Meanwhile I called Dave Toschi and told him everything I knew about Ralph, Dave asked me to get some of Ralph’s handwriting and send it to him. I wanted to get away from him as fast as I could without upsetting him. So I told him that I had a modeling offer in southern Calif. He said that if I took that job, he wouldn’t be with me. As far as he knew I took the job. Toschi called to let me know that Ralph had only one DUI arrest and that his picture was a lot like what Zodiac was known to look like. Ralph knew how much money was on Zodiac’s head at that time, I thought that was interesting that he would know that ? |
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Post by Sandy on Dec 2, 2014 12:42:59 GMT -8
My young husband was a bit spoiled by his mother, she gave him anything he wanted, so he didn’t have much incentive to work. I was earning enough to take care of all of us. Because my credit was very good he bought a boat without mentioning it to me. Which made me responsible for all of the payments, I was not happy about that. It was about 5 yrs into that marriage when I had a feeling that he was straying. One was the UPS delivery person who delivered my packages ! I checked the mileage on his truck every day when left for work. Each time there was 24 miles on his truck, so I knew she had to live about 12 miles away. Long story short I filed for divorce, filled his boat with his clothes and sent him home to his mother. I changed my name back to Betts, it wasn’t long before the odd phone calls started up again. Thank goodness I kept some of the guns that I had bought . I started to notice someone following me again, he was clever, he would park at different areas that I would drive by and then he would pull out and follow. A few times he would wait on the side of the highway and then pull out thinking that I didn’t notice. One was a Chevy truck with a gun rack , it held a large rifle. I memorized many of the license plate numbers, when one day I spotted one older green car with a plate I had seen before. This time I followed him, it was veterans day late 80’s. Three or four days later, I was in Lyons restaurant drinking coffee talking to my friend who tended bar there, when my car alarm went off. One of the waitresses knew my car and told me it was going off. Something told me it was a ploy for me to go outside, so I went to the door and used my clicker to shut the alarm off. About an hour later I left to go to Alameda, to do some work at one of my friend’s homes, before going to work in Oakland. As I got to the tunnel that separated Orinda / Oakland, I heard a shot but wasn’t sure if it was a backfire or not ? Then half way into the tunnel I heard another shot, this time I knew it was gun fire, so I started to weave enough to hopefully miss the bullet . As I was coming out of the tunnel the last shot rang out. Then I saw him in an older very pretty blue Cad convertible. He drove past me pretty fast, so I didn’t get the plate number that time. I knew better than to try and catch up with him, he headed towards Hayward. I noticed that someone on a motorcycle who was in the tunnel had pulled up to a CHP officer who was giving someone else a ticket. I felt he reported the shots. When I got to my friends home in Alameda I called to make sure that was reported and was told others had reported it. A few months later I wanted to get a copy of the report and was told that because no one was hurt so it wasn’t kept. To continue on with my story, the owner of the home in Alameda was Jim Browner whom I knew he and his wife for several years. There was an incident probably 1989 or early 1990 , where a man went into where Jim was working at a bar I believe the name of it was the Hut in Oakland ? Jim said the man looked like he had on work clothes like in construction. He said the man bought a drink , drank it and left the bar leaving his change from a $20.00 bill. Jim put it behind the counter believing the man forgot his change. The man returned to the bar and accused Jim of taking his money, Jim assured him that he kept it for him, but the man was enraged just the same. Jim told him to calm down and the man threatened to get him for trying to keep the money anyway. A week or so later the bar was set on fire on the roof. By 1989 I knew that the man I believed was Zodiac was stalking me and following me almost every day and night to and from work. He was becoming more bold, he didn’t seem to care if I was on to him or not. It was as if he and RH were taking turns taunting me. One day on my way to work in Oakland and near my job was a post office box on 23rd Ave, I had some information I was sending to DOJ in Sacramento. I didn’t notice until I parked next to the box that RH was right behind me parking as well. He was in a faded red car like a boxy VW with a plate that read KoK0 ---. I believe I knew about the Mikado by then , because seeing the word KoK0 on the plate I thought was pretty clever for RH to have. I got out of the car and mailed the letter, looked over at RH , got back into my car and went to my work. |
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