Post by WelshChappie on Sept 20, 2014 10:38:04 GMT -8
Found where this clip comes from. It is a news report outside the location where the 'Zodiac' had said he'd meet Mel Belli. The caller wasn't Zodiac it turned out, but Eric Weil. But here the entire news segment anyway:
Given that most of those [us],who take more than a passing interest in Zodiac,understand that he could never be spotted in person,one wonders why the lady in the first clip wasn't arrested for stalking an innocent [?].
If there is any potential talent that Zodiac displayed,it was for being an illusionist.He would have just had to have brushed up a bit on his ''talk the talk'' - then find a good theatrical agent [?].
If there is any serious point to be made here...time,time and time again,Zodiac's persona is mistaken for the real person.
A troubled man,with a vicious streak.Plus a few gaping holes in his frontal lobes,where brain matter should be [?].
No,I am not saying that the shoe print is not factual...it most certainly is...it is what is referred to as ''deadpan humor'' - ''Bigfoot'' rolls off the tongue,but ''Size 10 1/2 foot'' does not.Also,that folk will think that ''Size 10 1/2 foot'' is a plainly daft name - albeit factual.
Certainly,I agree that there is no cover up.But,in some cases of long standing cold status,the actual identity may have not been established,but the means to finding it is known - but authorities are unable to proceed in attaining that specific identity,without a further helping hand.Perhaps a bit of a ''cryptic'' explanation...but that's the best I can do,at the moment.
Indeed,the kooks and cranks can impede the serious process...but all one can hope for,with The Zodiac case,is that resources are still active at Federal level,and that intent to solve the case is still serious.I saw a clip,a while ago,of a law enforcement civil servant being asked why his department had failed to answer requests from Lyndon Lafferty.Although appearing a little embarrassed,the civil servant seemed entirely confident with ''the matter in hand'' - so on balance,I think the authorities are only too aware that The Zodiac case is still a thorn in their side...and that the Website community,plus various media outlets,are doing what they can to assist the process of a successful outcome [?].
If we assume that 1950 is the last year that Zodiac could have been born,there is still another 25 years to go,before an actual person may no longer be brought to justice,if still alive now [?].
Thank you for clearing that up. I a confidant that Zodiac is still alive and is still doing his "Thing". He isn't always truthful , but like he told all of us on 11-9-69, his pace isn't any slower, he will continue to kill but will not announce it.
Although "someone" claiming to be Zodiac has tried to announce to Pittsburg Ca. Police , that he is the killer of 12 females in the late 80's to the mid 90's .
An anonymous phone call was made to the police telling them where the body of one of those victims could be found. Andrea Ingersol was with my daughter the night she disappeared Nov 11th 1992. That was the same day I chased my suspect for about a half a mile. On Nov 15th 1992 he shot at me in a tunnel. I don't believe in too many coincidences. It was almost 23 yrs to the day that Zodiac sent his Nov 9th 69 letter. I do have my hopes up that he will be caught this year !
It is very much like what we know Zodiac has done in the past. Unfortunately the police didn't take it seriously.
Yes,Sandy,it's very worrying how many victims,after 1970,that may be the responsibility of Zodiac - or a small band of conspirators that constitute the phenomenon of ''Zodiac''[?].It could have been a ''dare'' club,with each member taking their turn [?].
On the surface,the perpetrator at Lake Berryessa does not seem to be the same person that murdered Paul Stine [?].Even if he was the ''one and only'' Zodiac,Paul Stine's murderer showed brazen cockiness,hanging around the crime scene,in an urban area.One senses that he was confident that someone was waiting to spirit him away quickly - a getaway driver,perhaps [?].
But there is also the ''inevitable'' copycat theory [?].Rod Laver's exploits spawned a whole generation of great Australian tennis players,and Sugar Ray Leonard,a generation of great American middle-weight boxers - so it would be unsurprising to find that Zodiac's deeds have left a legacy in California.History teaches us that young men without prospects,are a scourge on the world [!].
Prospects of Zodiac being unmasked ? I believe them to be good - particularly in the light of extraordinary advances in DNA technology - which have improved by a factor of up to 24,in just 10 years.It's just that investigations have moved out of California,and reside very much,in Washington DC,these days.
Quote from rubislaw : I believe them to be good - particularly in the light of extraordinary advances in DNA technology - which have improved by a factor of up to 24,in just 10 years.It's just that investigations have moved out of California,and reside very much,in Washington DC,these days.
What makes you think that investigations have moved to Washington DC ?
I have reason to believe the case is still here in Calif. and that there are cold case Det. in Calif. who still work the Zodiac case.
My hopes are high that it will be solved soon !
As far as a body count, I have been given clues along with a map ,that there are more than 70 murders Zodiac is responsible for.
I do believe that there were at least two working in tandem. The one at Lake B., I don't believe was the same one that killed Paul Stine. One prefers knives, the other guns. One is larger than the other by several pounds and a few inches. That is not meant to be stated as a fact, it is only what I believe.
Hi Sandy...we appear to be on the same page of the Hymn sheet with respect to boundaries of speculation - yes,it is very possible that there was more than one ''Zodiac''.Also,like you,I believe there were just two.
You may believe that they were equal partners [?].Personally,my feelings are that there was ''Zodiac'' - the architect of letters and ''deeds'',and a ''compliant'' accomplice,who shared in the ''action''.
Indeed,there still exists ''pockets'' of State investigations in California,but from recent experiences which I cannot go into at this time,anything emerging that appears significant to the case,is referred to ''washington''.Who is to know,precisely the reason,but I think it just a bi-product of ''sensible'' funding and resources.It is not something to lose sleep over,if you might be concerned that your voice is not being heard - it will be if what you have to contribute,is deemed ''significant''.
It almost goes without saying...but ''to-day''- in the light of modern day terrorism,Homeland security is ''Number 1'' - and everything else,has to find its place,in terms of priorities [?].
Yes rubislaw32, We seem to be on the same page, if not at least a paragraph or two. My evidence sounds too good to be true so it may never be looked at. I keep it at the bank in a safety deposit box for safe keeping, in case someone new to the case wants to check what I have out. The blood evidence I have ,that I believe is a mixture of Hartnell's and Cecilia's blood , will prove that I am not making up some story to get my 15 min of fame.
I would never do that to the victims families first of all and I would not want to ruin my reputation with made up lies.
If a person lies even once they will never be believed. That happened to someone very close to the case.
So what are you keeping the blood evidence for,Sandy ? I am sure that anything that might expedite a conclusion to the case,would be welcome by the victims' families [?].
Indeed,it is important to retain integrity,when assisting law enforcement - my feelings are that anyone connected,can go and write their stories ''after'' someone is made accountable and answerable for the crime.
But why wait,Sandy,if you have faith in your judgement ? That ''rainy day'' may never come.
Rubislaw32: see HMIC about this - OK ?
Jan 28, 2020 6:17:56 GMT -8
Rubislaw32: Thanks 525307 CO
Jan 25, 2020 6:43:03 GMT -8
Sandy: RandolphCarter: all victims different horoscope signs. Darlene Ferrin born on cusp of Cancer and Leo. Sorry but Darlene was not born on the cusp Cancer and Leo, she was born under the cusp of Pisces and Aries. Her birthday is in March not July.
Jan 24, 2020 19:06:47 GMT -8
Rubislaw32: Thanks for the Blackfoot Alphabet tip , Guest 123 .This could be of interest , with the Z148 cipher text . Given a link to the Karl Werner murders , Z148 is likely to be Zodiac authentic . Nice spot .
Jan 11, 2020 6:53:53 GMT -8
Guest123: Most of the people murdered have double letters in their name. Is it a coincidence? Is it deliberate?
Jan 10, 2020 22:05:39 GMT -8
Guest123: Look at the Blackfoot alphabet. Some of the letters look like the symbol in one or more of the cyphers.
Jan 10, 2020 21:50:26 GMT -8
Handyman: ricardo; if the watch is as a compass and the math addad , 36/42 or between its centre 40/41 would or could this also be used at the geographical end of the puzzle , I heard the trick is to find his north ? seeing as the numbers are a key. dvk
Dec 19, 2019 7:55:37 GMT -8
Rubislaw32: Apple Florez extends her apologies to all members,at this site,for her insults,and regrets that she was frustrated,at the time of posting.[refer : Kenneth Lester German ]
Sept 11, 2019 18:02:21 GMT -8
RandolphCarter: Belli defended murderer Jack Ruby
Sept 1, 2019 15:28:14 GMT -8
RandolphCarter: "This thing in me wont let me" Z wasn't nuts, he knew truth.
Sept 1, 2019 15:27:39 GMT -8
RandolphCarter: It is worth it to look at subsidies received by the Lykes Steamship Co since the foundation of the Maritime Administration and notice all of those extra digits. I believe I've made my point and will digress.
Sept 1, 2019 12:58:42 GMT -8
RandolphCarter: Is there wisdom in stopping someone trying to fix the world? Would our research be better spent on JFK, RFK, Bugliosi, and all those states down in the Caribbean we know nothing about?
Sept 1, 2019 12:56:57 GMT -8
RandolphCarter: Was Goldcatcher thought up to catch greedhounds?
Aug 30, 2019 13:14:18 GMT -8
RandolphCarter: Were there any significant astronomical events of 2019 Zodiac would have observed? What were his thoughts on the Ultima Thule Flyby? Randolph Carter smiled to himself in the Strange High House In The Mist that night and thought of sunken Uralia.
Aug 30, 2019 13:13:19 GMT -8
RandolphCarter: The irony of reward money is there must be a world left to spend it in. How deep does Zodiac go and will there still be a bank to go to? The clear headed researcher must remind himself of this.
Aug 30, 2019 13:09:05 GMT -8
RandolphCarter: David Farrady born under Libra killed under Sagittarius. Paul Stine born under Sagittarius killed under Libra.
Aug 30, 2019 11:33:42 GMT -8
RandolphCarter: all victims different horoscope signs. Darlene Ferrin born on cusp of Cancer and Leo.
Aug 30, 2019 11:30:59 GMT -8
RandolphCarter: Just how many scandals were kept secret by the zodiac remaining unsolved?
Aug 29, 2019 20:32:15 GMT -8
RandolphCarter: How many Paul Tates were there and did Blaine ever meet Gutierrez Mannoyo?
Aug 29, 2019 20:31:15 GMT -8
RandolphCarter: Did Cheri Jo ever interact with a "John Riverside"?
Aug 29, 2019 20:27:50 GMT -8