Sorry, I'm posting too much. I did think the symbol was pentene, but since the Periodic Table has its origins in alchemy, they may well share the same derivation.
I still think the cattle brand may be a clew. Sometimes, to throw us off, he gives us a clew with several plausible explanations, because he thinks we'll assume that since there are several possibilities, neither/none can be true.
But then again, he also loves double clues - a sort of cognitive pun.
On balance, I'd go with the science connection though, as the symbol would connect with 'cerrous' and other oddities.
Fascinating insight into contemporary attitudes to the occult. Crowley had one Commandment, which is 'Do what thou wilt'. (I think LaVey changed it to 'Do what you want'.) Ha! Get some grammar lessons and don't tell me what to do! And Satan is a character in Paradise Lost!
Incidentally, they think that if someone kills you, and you don't die, your karma is good. Bad karma? No chance. In other words, it's the victim's fault. in a previous life. A higher power will decide whatever is meant to happen.
Note he has no concept of what a human being is.
Really interesting documentary. Beautiful lion. Note at 21:50.
An extremely dangerous psychopath (born, not made). I'd say he was capable of great violence, by knife. Warning -very long, with awful alleged music.
Interview with LaVey's daughter. Deeply disturbing. Who knows? It sounds genuine to me, as do the facts and names, as far as I know, and with no extraneous detail. (I can hardly hear it.)
But it seems Lavey was a cop. (There are no records.) Plus, she mentions'organised crime' and the Council of Thirteen.
Did you know that Sharon Tate's last film (with Orson Welles...) was called '12+1'? Alternate title, '13 Chairs'? It involves the repeated disembowelment of stuffed chairs, tracked down one by one throughout the film, and features a gentleman's hairdresser who invents... a cure for baldness, just as Kirk D thought Jay Sebring did. www.newspapers.com/newspage/5376149/ (I'm a film anorak.)
I've figured out how to find threads now. Sorry. I mean well but I know I must be annoying! Thank goodness there are good researchers on here who can find out more. I'm away to look for a thread on LaVey. I may be gone for some time.
Oops. He might not be dead. All of the above was allegedly. But wait. Fake your own death and you lose the right to sue! As far as I knew, he was dead, so no mens rea! Either way, he is or was a consummate piece of garbage.
Rubislaw32: In the Zodiac case's history, individuals who might make a positive difference have basked briefly, then faded. Is this person now Kamala Harris ? And who has seen it all since Dec. 2014 ? Ex-Chief Constable Livingstone. Crown Office got rid of him. Hmm.
Nov 28, 2023 21:37:10 GMT -8
Rubislaw32: Based on recent events, particularly the mystery 'non-events' of court hearings for the murder of Emma Caldwell by the current accused Iain Packer, I would recommend that The CA DOJ are the only DOJ to trust, at present. Of interest now, how events unfold.
Nov 28, 2023 20:06:02 GMT -8
Rubislaw32: Fit like Frunk - peckin' awa ? My liaison officer sanctioned by Frunk, was the 1st person to receive the Real Z340 solution. Then 'Desperate Dan' Olson (more fool me). What Mr Wray probably didn't realize was ''A sting in the 'tale'.''. Unlucky Hoodwinker.
Nov 27, 2023 22:20:40 GMT -8
Rubislaw32: Well, you can tell Olson, that once the REAL Z340 solution is widely published, I'll be placing 4 feathers in the mail for your Mr Olson. But, what we all want to know is, what happened to Donna Lass. Even if ''kicking & screaming'', FBI will be owning up.
Nov 27, 2023 12:24:20 GMT -8
Rubislaw32: That's right ''Hoodwinker''. Too shame-faced, just 10 days after FBI's Private Citizens Tweet, lying to the whole world. How is The FIB's 'Desperate Dan' Olson, these days ? Still hiding ? No doubt Ms Harris & Lord Cameron are up to speed now. Eh Mr Wray ?
Nov 27, 2023 9:38:07 GMT -8
Rubislaw32: To FBI's Hoodwinker Wray: You remember the day, Monday December 21st 2020, don't you ? Outgoing US Attorney General William Barr announced charges against Mas'ud, and thanked the Crown Office & Police Scotland. Also, excusing your absence. You were hiding.
Nov 27, 2023 9:14:26 GMT -8
Rubislaw32: Now 3 weeks on from a postponed Caldwell court hearing, presided over by Lord Beckett - another advocate in the original Pan Am Lockerbie trial. Both Glasgow-based The Daily Record, and BBC investigative journalists have fingered Iain Packer in the past.
Nov 27, 2023 4:59:14 GMT -8
Rubislaw32: All the evidence gathered on Mas'ud as the now prime suspect in the Pan Am Lockerbie case, was by The Crown Office, and handed to The US DOJ in December 2020. I would suggest that every ''Average Joe Public'' would see grounds for a conflict of interests.
Nov 27, 2023 4:08:22 GMT -8
Rubislaw32: ...this strictly true (?), in light of the Pan Am Lockerbie case (2000), for which Turnbull was an advocate. Labelled forever more as: ''A grievous miscarriage of justice - the worst in British legal history.''. And ''impartiality'' ? Refer recent events.
Nov 27, 2023 3:45:31 GMT -8
Rubislaw32: appointment: ''I have no doubt Lord Turnbull will bring to the inquiry the required rigour, independence and impartiality. Lord Turnbull's previous experience on terrorism cases will provide the highest levels of knowledge and professionalism.''. But, is..
Nov 27, 2023 3:39:52 GMT -8
Rubislaw32: This year (June 2023), Lord Alan Turnbull, husband of Ms Bain, was appointed chair of the 1998 Omagh bombing govt. inquiry. A Real IRA terrorist atrocity that accounted for 29 deaths and 220 injuried. Govt. Minister Chris Heaton-Harris said of Turnbull's..
Nov 27, 2023 3:33:03 GMT -8
Rubislaw32: As matters stand, one wonders if Ms. Bain really believes that she is doing Margaret Caldwell a favour (?), save everything else. Those on the shadier side of ''truth & justice'' beware : Just when you think it is all in place, Z might open his trap-door.
Nov 26, 2023 6:35:39 GMT -8
Rubislaw32: There is optimism with ex-CA DOJ Attorney General & VP Harris now focused, and UK P.M. Sunak concerned that fair play takes place. But, is it enough to save the Zodiac case ? Very disappointing with Ms. Bain - looking more & more like a puppet on a string.
Nov 26, 2023 5:48:08 GMT -8
Rub--law32: The Crown Office arrested Iain Packer in February 2022 - just 12 hours following the phoney Z340 presentation at the Seattle conference. A message to FBI ''not'' to overplay their duplicitous hand ? Seem like CA DOJ & SFPD are the only Z-ones to trust now.
Nov 26, 2023 4:59:47 GMT -8
Rub--law32: At least now, it looks likely the Crown Office have been put on the back foot with recent events, and may have to reconsider the prudence in proceeding with a murder charge levelled at Iain Packer. More eyes are watching now, than they would care to wish.
Nov 25, 2023 22:30:47 GMT -8
Rubislaw32: And where did Frank Mulholland find Mas'ud ? From BBC investigative journalists. That's no guarantee. Mas'ud's family think he is completely innocent (a given, granted). No guarantee a prosecution will succeed, and may see off remaining Zodiac chances.
Nov 25, 2023 21:56:50 GMT -8
Rubislaw32: Moreover, when events occur like an opportunity to establish a more universally recognized justice for Pan Am Lockerbie, which can supersede cases like Zodiac from certain quarters of the judiciary. Amoral, and Zodiac being kicked about like a football.
Nov 25, 2023 21:39:53 GMT -8
Rubislaw32: To be Zodiac case-intrinsic it's certainly one way of looking at it. Over the years, FBI made both serious errors of judgement and lapsed to the point of abdication of responsibility. Their bosses at US DOJ booted Comey, but still want to save the FBI.
Nov 25, 2023 21:24:09 GMT -8
Rub--law32: There certainly appears to be suspicion of one sort or another, and 2 significant events in the last year: The capture of Pan Am Lockerbie suspect Mas'ud, with a prospective US prosecution awaiting him. And, the recent political comeback of David Cameron.
Nov 25, 2023 13:40:33 GMT -8
Rubislaw32: Many things are possible ''Frunk''. One of which is that Vice-President Harris and UK Prime Minister Sunak suspect that ''your lot'' have put Packer up to ensure a wrap on the Zodiac case. Primarily for US DOJ's benefit, who prefer to protect the FBI.
Nov 25, 2023 12:26:26 GMT -8