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Kane
Jan 13, 2015 9:56:07 GMT -8
Post by Sandy on Jan 13, 2015 9:56:07 GMT -8
I believe that you are spot on in your opinion of Zodiac.
I can't help but bring up my suspect again, the one with the shaved head that is, who wore the one inch band to hold his glasses on, with the very shiny shoes having powder all over his Face, head and hands.
He was the most polite man I have ever heard, when he spoke to the woman he was with , I thought he called her Susie?
He was also polite when he touched my shoulder and I screamed, he apologized to me for scaring me, in the most monotonous voice I have ever heard. He drove a car that belonged to a RH or he is RH .
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Kane
Feb 17, 2015 21:15:55 GMT -8
Post by Galaxie500 on Feb 17, 2015 21:15:55 GMT -8
Sandy Klein's middle initial B could be representative of the name 'Benjamin' the same as his Mothers, but I think it's more than likely his middle name is 'Barton' because he gave his name as Lawrence Barton one time when he was arrested. How about Brodsky?  Full image. |
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Post by WelshChappie on Feb 22, 2015 16:08:36 GMT -8
It could be any number of Names Gal, one either taken from a relative such as Sarah Benjamin, or just a completely random Name like Brian, Barry or something. He seemed to change his Surname every time he moved from one place to the next. The one news feature on Kaye states that his Larceny Charges were dropped and other charges reduced because, the article reports, he 'Helped Cops' out. What specifically that means is unknown, but it's a safe assumption I believe to assume that he had information on other people or crimes that Law Enforcement wanted or needed. He did, it would appear, agree to become a CI (Criminal Informant) for Law Enforcement, specifically, the FBI. They don't dismiss serious charges such as Kane was facing unless you can offer them something pretty big.
Then you have the application for name change submitted by Klein and in the section of the application that asks 'Reason for requesting name change' Kane wrote: "Beneficial for my area of Employment." I think he moved from place to place while working as a CI. CI's, especially those who can get close to the big fish that the FBI want & need evidence against, they protect that Informant and will go to great length to protect them because of the information they are able to gather. I always found it strange that Kane left SF and immediately began working for Dorfman, a Mafia associate who was running scams that were worth billions and who the FBI had been trying to gather incriminating evidence against for years.
"Like I have always said, I am Crack-Proof..." Well if the FBI are protecting you because your of great value to them, then any attempts to take this valued source away from the FBI will, almost certainly, be met with resistance.
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Kane
Feb 23, 2015 12:34:46 GMT -8
Post by Galaxie500 on Feb 23, 2015 12:34:46 GMT -8
I did a little digging and was able to find some additional information on Lawrence B Klein, including a phone number and current address. Having said that, I think it’s extremely unlikely that this is the guy we’re looking for.  |
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Kane
Feb 23, 2015 14:42:00 GMT -8
Post by Galaxie500 on Feb 23, 2015 14:42:00 GMT -8
In the 1969-70 volume of Polk's San Francisco city directory, there's a listing for one Lawrence M. Kane, general agent with the Massachusetts Indemnity and Life Insurance Co. Per the directory, he had an office at 1255 Post St. This is about a four minute drive from the Clark Hotel, where Kane is alleged to have been living at the time in question. Would it be remiss of me to assume that Sandy has already looked into this?  |
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Kane
Feb 23, 2015 15:25:13 GMT -8
Post by Galaxie500 on Feb 23, 2015 15:25:13 GMT -8
Regarding Kane's military service, which was mentioned upthread:  Perhaps somebody more research savvy than myself can use this information to obtain Kaye's draft registration record. |
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Post by WelshChappie on Feb 26, 2015 15:50:34 GMT -8
Well the above information is something that has long baffled me simply because it is incorrect. Lawrence passed away on May 20th, not the 19th. His Birth Date, as per listed with the FBI, was April 26, 1924 and not April 29th. His Grave at Northern Nevada's Veteran Memorial Cem. has this epitaph:  |
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Post by WelshChappie on Feb 26, 2015 15:57:43 GMT -8
In the 1969-70 volume of Polk's San Francisco city directory, there's a listing for one Lawrence M. Kane, general agent with the Massachusetts Indemnity and Life Insurance Co. Per the directory, he had an office at 1255 Post St. This is about a four minute drive from the Clark Hotel, where Kane is alleged to have been living at the time in question. Would it be remiss of me to assume that Sandy has already looked into this? This is interesting to me because I saw claims made that after a search of records, nobody by the name of Lawrence Kane was residing in San Francisco in the relevant period of October 1969. Bit confused as to why a company called MASSACHUSETTS INDEMNITY should be trading in San Francisco, CA? But interesting find Gal, I would say there's a more than average chance this is him because he was a Salesman by trade selling Real Estate and Motor Vehicles that we know of, so why not Insurance? Lawrence M. Kane, M as in Morris possibly? Who knows. |
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Post by Sandy on Apr 8, 2015 7:32:55 GMT -8
Great find, I missed that one! I was pretty sure that I found Kane/Cane on Eddy st, ( 455 I think ?)moving in and out of the same address, changing the spelling of his name.I did find that he was in business with a guy from San Rafael Ca., it was called "Allied Aluminum co." they were all over Calif.
His partner in that business was suing Kane and during the trial, the partner had a near death car "accident".
At one time I did find something on who I thought was Kane , working at an insurance co.and wanted to find out which insurance co.that Paul Stine had worked at, in case they worked together ?
Ricardo found the company that Paul Stine worked at last year .
Whenever I drive past Fernley NV ,where Kane is buried, I think of him and how odd that Darlene's father is also buried there.
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Kane
Apr 11, 2015 18:56:38 GMT -8
Post by Galaxie500 on Apr 11, 2015 18:56:38 GMT -8
Great find, I missed that one! I was pretty sure that I found Kane/Cane on Eddy st, ( 455 I think ?)moving in and out of the same address, changing the spelling of his name.I did find that he was in business with a guy from San Rafael Ca., it was called "Allied Aluminum co." they were all over Calif. His partner in that business was suing Kane and during the trial, the partner had a near death car "accident". At one time I did find something on who I thought was Kane , working at an insurance co.and wanted to find out which insurance co.that Paul Stine had worked at, in case they worked together ? Ricardo found the company that Paul Stine worked at last year . Whenever I drive past Fernley NV ,where Kane is buried, I think of him and how odd that Darlene's father is also buried there. Sandy - From what little I've been able to piece together based on old city directories and business indexes, Allied Aluminum was some sort of roofing/siding supply company. In 1961, they were headquartered at 607 Market Street in San Francisco. This would appear to jibe with what we know about Kane’s work history. Throughout the late 1940’s and early 1950’s, Kane was employed as a “Shingle Man” – '40s parlance for a particular type of confidence trickster and 'entertainer,' indigenous to New York, who specialized in the sale of aluminum construction material, and who, in so doing, utilized some rather unconventional (not to mention unscrupulous) advertising methods. Pretty interesting stuff, in and of itself: Attachments:
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Post by Sandy on Apr 12, 2015 8:57:58 GMT -8
Galaxie500, Good work, I love all of the good investigators we have here! Some of you were banned from other sites, their loss is our gain, that is for sure.
The partner that Kane had was Carl Spivia ( Not sure of the spelling of his last name?) It is in one of my many notes. He and his wife Linda ( I think ?) They once lived in Oakland, before moving to San Rafael and starting up the business. The suit was over money missing and unaccounted for.
Harvey never knew about Kane's other business adventures as far as I know, he only knew about the real estate business Kane was in. I met someone who knew Kane as a broker in Lake Tahoe and said he was a nice person.( So was Ted Bundy according to people who knew him)
Kane's handwriting samples are close, but not a match in my opinion.
I think Kane is one of the more interesting suspects, as far as him looking very much like the man Darlene was so afraid of and being not a very nice person. Her family believes Kane was her killer and I so did I, until after Kane had died and I was still seeing the man I was told was Kane.
It would be good to find out who this other guy is?
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Kane
Apr 16, 2015 13:09:28 GMT -8
Post by Galaxie500 on Apr 16, 2015 13:09:28 GMT -8
Galaxie500, Good work, I love all of the good investigators we have here! Some of you were banned from other sites, their loss is our gain, that is for sure. The partner that Kane had was Carl Spivia ( Not sure of the spelling of his last name?) It is in one of my many notes. He and his wife Linda ( I think ?) They once lived in Oakland, before moving to San Rafael and starting up the business. The suit was over money missing and unaccounted for. Harvey never knew about Kane's other business adventures as far as I know, he only knew about the real estate business Kane was in. I met someone who knew Kane as a broker in Lake Tahoe and said he was a nice person.( So was Ted Bundy according to people who knew him) Kane's handwriting samples are close, but not a match in my opinion. I think Kane is one of the more interesting suspects, as far as him looking very much like the man Darlene was so afraid of and being not a very nice person. Her family believes Kane was her killer and I so did I, until after Kane had died and I was still seeing the man I was told was Kane. It would be good to find out who this other guy is? Sandy - Thanks! His partner's name was spelled Sapia, as can be seen in the images below:  Attachments:
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Kane
Apr 18, 2015 10:44:00 GMT -8
Post by Sandy on Apr 18, 2015 10:44:00 GMT -8
I have used that name in court to sue someone and won , without being asked if that was a true name or not, so it can happen.
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Post by Sandy on May 18, 2015 12:47:49 GMT -8
That looks like you just might get the name !
I know that they don't work very fast, it took me about two months to hear back from them.
(We have to have patience .)
I am still waiting to hear back from Ed Rust !
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Kane
Jan 13, 2016 10:37:20 GMT -8
Post by Sandy on Jan 13, 2016 10:37:20 GMT -8
I will have to check, I think they are all om the message boards. The drivers license's that Kane had, you mentioned they were done days apart.
Harvey told me that they were just hours apart.
Seems so odd to me that my suspect who is still alive, looks so much like Kane, including the eye and paralyses,his size and ability to look very different when need be.
I have heard Kane's voice it is close to my guy, except my suspect talks in a much slower more pronounced monotoned way. They even have that silver streak on their left side of the forehead. One heck of a lot of coincidences between the two.
I do believe that Zodiac was capable of making himself look like different people, like I am pretty sure when Zodiac drove Grants car to Taunt Lyndon Lafferty , he made sure that he looked enough like Grant to cause Lyndon to investigate Grant as Zodiac. I spoke to Lyndon just the other day about that and learned that it wasn't just that one time that he saw Grant in his white Chevy Impala, he saw him many times. I have no doubt that Lyndon saw Grant in his own car many times. It was the times on the highway where he taunted Lyndon, that I believe it was the true Zodiac. If Grant was gay and I am told he was bi-sexual, could Zodiac have been one of his lover's ? Do we know if Kane was bi-sexual or not ?
Bottom line to this is that Zodiac could make himself look very different as Kane surely did. I still question how Zodiac made himself so much taller and heavier at Lake B?
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