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Post by PowerLord on Dec 31, 2016 10:42:36 GMT -8
Bottom line on all of this Rubis,only God will have justice on this case and many more like it.Many could read what Ive written and say that I am following the details of the case and applying it to my shattered childhood.
Most everything Ive written can be verified.Evil will not hear the details,this case will never be solved until truth and honesty prevail through God.Maybe I'm the vehicle to get the job done,who knows?
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Post by Rubislaw32 on Dec 31, 2016 11:31:36 GMT -8
Well,I am sure that the readers here,are so much better informed about the fundamentals of Satanism,and its resonance,within the pages of Zodiac's correspondences,after your posts,PowerLord.
I am sure that many of the readers will now view Zodiac,in at least,a slightly different light.
I think it can take a while to fully digest some of the potential implications,of what you have conveyed.
Personally,I see the ''entity'' that is Zodiac,as even cheekier and sneakier,than previously believed.
I am all in favor of anyone adopting benevolent faith,for inner strength and support,but we must adhere and respect the Law,as above all else,in a modern and civilized society.
And with the Law,will hopefully follow Justice,in this case of The Zodiac Killer.
Whatever the truth of the matter,that the closest to fairness,is rewarded to the bereaved of Zodiac's victims.
And some ''complete answers'' would be nice,too !
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Post by Ricardo on Jan 2, 2017 17:51:55 GMT -8
PowerLord,
I have been reading this thread and you are doing the best that you can to explain the reasons you feel that your father should be investigated as a possible suspect.
By presenting your information here, it will provide an opportunity for it to be investigated.
You said that you were born in San Jose and lived in Fremont.
I would like to know if either of your parents had any particular connection to Benicia, Napa, Vallejo, and/or San Francisco.
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Post by PowerLord on Jan 27, 2017 0:22:41 GMT -8
My father at the time was a forestry firefighter on Mt.Hamilton,located in the Diablo mountain range. My mother worked for the telephone company in San Francisco as a switchboard operator back then
Didn't mean to drop off the radar here but we've had some heavy stuff in the last 3 weeks.Thank you Ricardo for your interest.
I have some other possible clues.
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Post by PowerLord on Jan 27, 2017 0:53:01 GMT -8
Before entering the forestry you had to apply and train in Vallejo at their main office
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Post by PowerLord on Jan 27, 2017 22:22:05 GMT -8
Heres where the bomb drops people,my parents who dabbled in satanism and seventh day adventism,both pretty much the same and the connection to the shephard girl who attended the seventh day adventist pacific union college should be blaring a hole in your brain right now.
All of the details I have posted here should point you to the right people,my parents being two of them,why the feds havent contacted me yet over all this info is beyond me.....
unless there is the possibilty that these sites are only here to protect the secret.......
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Post by Rubislaw32 on Jan 28, 2017 5:23:40 GMT -8
Hi Powerlord.
Yes,it can seem a bit disconcerting - that you feel that your voice is not being heard,although you have information that you believe could be of interest,to Law Enforcement [?].
Over time,I have grown accustomed to their ''ways'' [!].
It's only,really,a guess as to how much information,''they'' are picking up on,on sites such as this one [ZKM].It appears to us,that it would be a ''cost effective'' means of trawling any new information - but we don't know to what extent that they do this - and they certainly aren't going to help us out with specifics [!].
On a fundamental level,you PowerLord,have elected to become an ''Accuser'',by making statements and ''inferences'',which includes individuals whom you believe might be involved in the case.I am sure that the regular readers here,are grateful that you have done so - but from Law Enforcement's point of view,it could be interpreted in a number of ways.
If,for example,LE are taking your claims seriously,they may categorize you as a ''Technical Suspect''.So,firstly,they would be inclined to check you out,yourself.That you are,whom you claim to be,and that your claims do tie in with information that you offer.Then they would attempt to gain access to your personal financial information,to assess if your motivation for having offered information,is other than ''standard'' reasons.
This may all sound a bit cynical,but LE do have,to a large extent,standard procedures that they go through,before they start examining the ''hub'' of what you claim.
After a number of years,I have some direct e-mail addresses and telephone numbers of detectives,with regard to specific cases - that may,or may not,be linked to the Zodiac case.It is expected of me,not to abuse this information,and I have learned that I may not receive any comeback,with regard to further information offered.
Law Enforcement deal with me with the common courtesies expected of public servants dealing with a member of the public - but beyond this,I am largely in the dark.Though,on occasion,if they happen to ask of me,then certain deductions,can be made.
As I have intimated,PowerLord,if informing yourself is troubling you,you must start the ball rolling,by contacting them,in person.
Or,at least share your information,with a ''non-sensationalist'' journalist.
I am sure that what you have touched on,on this site,would be of interest.
We are certainly grateful for your contributions.
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Post by PowerLord on Jan 28, 2017 9:34:50 GMT -8
Let this be known,I am one of God's warriors,I fear nothing. These people and what they have done will be uncovered and justice will prevail.I know many people from other zodiac sites are watching what I have put in words and their silence is deafening.
But there is one maybe two out there that want justice and hopefully you step forward for this fight...
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Post by PowerLord on Jan 28, 2017 9:43:31 GMT -8
My time on this site is done,but you may rest assured no stone has been left un turned. God Bless
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Post by Rubislaw32 on Jan 28, 2017 11:56:51 GMT -8
Well,I think you are adopting a very healthy attitude,in trying to out the truth,and seek justice.And,with regard to that ''awful'' Church of Satan,you most surely are a victim [?].
That side to Zodiac most certainly comes out in his letters.It is just,to what extent,was there real involvement,compared to his claims and inferences,in terms of actual evidence.
Objectivity is ''The Holy Grail'' [?].
I have taken figurative ''bruising'',PowerLord,and you must not let any perceived setbacks detract you,in your determination to expose the truth,as you see it.
What I find is,that the truth does not go away,if one continues to apply oneself to the task of investigation.That may be personal - but,whereas I used to have doubts about being right,I only,on occasion,have doubts about being wrong.
And as ''peripheral'' developments continue to unfold,this becomes more acute.It's just the time factor,that I underestimated.
Some people's attention spans are not that long [!].
You should stick with this site,PowerLord.Though feedback can be in short supply,it can be of benefit to share some of your thoughts and opinions.In order to pick at the bones of the Zodiac case,often more can come about through exchanges of information.Through research,more evidence and deduction can materialize.
It appears that two website managers,from larger sites,are losing their appetite for the case - on the realization that not all new information,is coming their way !
Strength in numbers,does not always work.
Keep the Faith,PowerLord.
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Post by Ricardo on Feb 2, 2017 1:13:11 GMT -8
My father at the time was a forestry firefighter on Mt.Hamilton,located in the Diablo mountain range. My mother worked for the telephone company in San Francisco as a switchboard operator back then. Before entering the forestry you had to apply and train in Vallejo at their main office Thank you for explaining the connections to San Francisco and Vallejo. As you suggest, a firefighter in the Forest Service could have trained in Vallejo and then also have worked at other parks such as Mt. Diablo.
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Post by PowerLord on May 25, 2017 22:01:08 GMT -8
As you know my POI is my father and I'm going to disclose a name. Garroutte
As you know at lake berryessa the zodiac had a conversation with both victims and explained that he had escaped Deer lodge Montana state prison and needed a ride some where.My father is Clifton Garroutte,his grandfather was doing time in this prison until?, Roy Garroutte. My father idolized his grandfather and talked fondly of his outlaw ways.
If you go to, Archives West Montana State Prison Records 1869-1974 you will find this proof.
Also regarding the guns and ammo he used without a trace,I have found a possible reason for this also.
In the March 29th 1969 Fremont Argus newspaper on page 14 you will find that in partnership with Micro Sight(gunsmiths) that my fathers cousin Jim Garroutte was traveling with this company to Fremont Ca,where we lived in 1969 on Beatrice st. in the same town.What better way to use untraceable guns than a free hand out from family right?
I have been on another forum that is connected with this forum but they seem to be interested in something other than solving this case.
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Post by PowerLord on May 25, 2017 22:51:42 GMT -8
I have alot more,and i will keep all of it in this thread unless it pertains to another section.
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Post by Ricardo on May 29, 2017 18:10:23 GMT -8
As you know my POI is my father and I'm going to disclose a name. Garroutte As you know at lake berryessa the zodiac had a conversation with both victims and explained that he had escaped Deer lodge Montana state prison and needed a ride some where.My father is Clifton Garroutte,his grandfather was doing time in this prison until?, Roy Garroutte. My father idolized his grandfather and talked fondly of his outlaw ways. If you go to, Archives West Montana State Prison Records 1869-1974 you will find this proof. The Zodiac killer could have a connection to the Old Prison which was at 925 Main Street in Deer Lodge in Montana. It is possible that the Zodiac killer could have been an inmate or the Zodiac killer could have known about someone who was an inmate. Your research has found an inmate who was a relative of your Person of Interest. Here is the proof that Roy Garroutte was an inmate. mtmemory.org/cdm/ref/collection/p103401coll11/id/17163According to this document, Roy Garroutte #8414 was convicted of forgery on August 27, 1925, and went to the state prison on September 4, 1926.
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Post by Ricardo on May 29, 2017 18:30:08 GMT -8
Also regarding the guns and ammo he used without a trace,I have found a possible reason for this also. In the March 29th 1969 Fremont Argus newspaper on page 14 you will find that in partnership with Micro Sight(gunsmiths) that my fathers cousin Jim Garroutte was traveling with this company to Fremont Ca,where we lived in 1969 on Beatrice st. in the same town.What better way to use untraceable guns than a free hand out from family right? Yes, someone working for a gun store could have access to multiple weapons. You make a good point that that the Zodiac killer could have been a gunsmith or the Zodiac killer could have been a friend or relative of a gunsmith. Your research has found a gunsmith (who worked at Mec Tools in 1969) who was a relative of your Person of Interest. I would like to find out other locations and dates where he did reloading demonstrations at gunsmith shows.
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