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Post by WelshChappie on Sept 8, 2014 6:54:05 GMT -8
I have often wondered why Zodiac would write in one letter and refer to a specific place or victim and in another seem as though he doesn't know, or remember, the details. Here's a classic example of what i mean:
"Dear Editor
. This is the murderer of the
2 teenagers last Christmass
at Lake Herman..."
We note here that Zodiac is fairly specific in both who the victims were, and where they were killed. He refers to them as teenagers and they were on Lake Herman Road. Now let's jump forward...
"I am the murderer of the taxi driver over by Washington St + Maple St last night, to prove this here is a blood stained piece of his shirt. I am the same man who did in the people in the north bay area."
Here the author writes almost as if he does not even know the victims age range, nor the area they were killed as he can only offer us here that he is the same man who 'did in the people in the North Bay Area.' People is extremely general and vague, as is 'North Bay Area.'
Also, it strikes me as odd that this author should offer us the notion that he is the same man that killed both the people in the North Bay and the taxi driver in S.F when nobody has questioned whether it's more than a single killer operating as The Zodiac. He seems to wish to convince us he's the same man when nobody has implied anything to the contrary, and does so by offering such vague and non specific terms that it almost forces one to question if this writer is the same man.
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Post by WelshChappie on Sept 8, 2014 7:00:50 GMT -8
And just to make a quick point regarding the post-cards that are disputed as to their authenticity. The Pines card, and the 'You'll hate me, but I've got to tell you' Cards I am thinking of mainly. There is reason to believe these were sent by the Zodiac himself because later on, after these cards have been sent, Zodiac writes and states "Like I have always said, I am crack-proof." The only time that Zodiac ever used the specific term 'Crack Proof' when referring to himself, was in the 'you'll hate me' post-card. So it seems he's confirming here that it was he that sent the cards.
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Post by zydeco's ghost on May 29, 2015 19:22:03 GMT -8
I thought people might like this. I bet you can't watch it without scanning the faces! Step into the time and culture of Zodiac. It's sad, really. The calm before the storm. Some food for thought too.
I want to go to a happening! As long as Zodiac's not there...
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Post by zydeco's ghost on May 29, 2015 21:46:32 GMT -8
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Post by Ricardo on Jun 1, 2015 0:24:19 GMT -8
Zydeco,
Thanks for posting the video about the Haight-Ashbury district of San Francisco.
The Zodiac killer could be in one of these videos from the 60’s and we may never know.
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Post by Zydeco on Jun 1, 2015 16:46:15 GMT -8
Zydeco, Thanks for posting the video about the Haight-Ashbury district of San Francisco. The Zodiac killer could be in one of these videos from the 60’s and we may never know. Oddly enough, I saw a dead ringer for a young David Berkowitz in another video. He smiled right at the camera and slowly turned away. I can't remember which one it was, but it seemed to be him. The problem with the 60s is you can never see their ears! |
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Post by WelshChappie on Jun 29, 2015 13:53:06 GMT -8
Zydeco, Thanks for posting the video about the Haight-Ashbury district of San Francisco. The Zodiac killer could be in one of these videos from the 60’s and we may never know. Oddly enough, I saw a dead ringer for a young David Berkowitz in another video. He smiled right at the camera and slowly turned away. I can't remember which one it was, but it seemed to be him. The problem with the 60s is you can never see their ears! Thats because the commodity of ears shot through the roof after Mike Tyson was peckish in his bout with Evander Holyfield and decided He would simply eat the ears off Evanders head. I mean it was an absolute disgrace, He spat the ear out and didn't even have the courtsey to make good use of Evanders Ears by consuming them. What an insult! Anyway, as many probably know, when using Wordpress to write an article it allows you post publishing to see the hits you receive, the Country the are in, the website they referred from to get to your site, and finally, the text they entered in a search engine (Google for example) that led them to my site. Now it has come to my attention several times that quite a number of people have googled some rather odd things. For example, 3 people in the 6 months have arrived at my site after googling "ALEX LEWIS THE ZODIAC KILLER" and 1 googled "Alex Lewis, welshchappie, is the zodiac killer." Now this is a bit of a shock to me and I have not taken this news very well if I am honest. Imagine waking up one day to discover you are the Zodiac? I told my friends this discovery about me and I have not seen them sinse and for somereason, they don't answer my calls at all after my honest confession. I was devistated and felt that it was only fare if I handed myself in to the authorities for my crimes so I went to my local police station and told the desk Sgt: "Good Morning Officer, I am wanted by several Police Agencies for serious offences so I have come to hand myself in." He asked "Ok which County was the offence in and which Police Force was it that wants to interview you? I told the truth "Napa, solano, benicia and San Francisco." He then asked with a puzzled look "Your wanted in the States?" I replied "Apparently yes." He then asked what I was wanted over in the US for? I again told the truth: "Multiple counts of First Degree Murder.... I am The Zodiac Killer you see Officer." 'Zodiac???" He said frowning at me "Wasn't that in the 70's?" I corrected him with "Late 60's actually, thats when I actually killed those people." He asked "Whats's your Date of Birth then Mr Zodiac?" I didn't appreciate his sarcastic and humerous tone given the nature of who I am and told him "I don't appreciate your very misplaced humour Sgt, I suggest you take me and my claims seriously because I am telling the truth!! Now, my date of birth is May 28, 1982 and here is my Identification Officer....  Let us proceed with my arrest and deportation! |
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Post by Rubislaw32 on Aug 15, 2015 7:23:46 GMT -8
Some fascinating insights on what played out at Lake Herman,by both Sandy and WelshChappie.
It is very believable that Zodiac started proceedings as a ruse for a robbery,but it is equally believable that Betty Lou fled as far as the road,requiring her body to be dragged back on to the gravel.One wonders to what extent,the police reports are given ''embellishment'' licence,in the interests of further investigations [?].Perhaps we will find,at a later date,that two versions existed [?].
I am not inclined to believe that Zodiac ever existed within the Hippie community.He was a regular worker,with plenty of loose change in his pocket.Cars and guns cost money.Being Zodiac was not something one could do on a ''brass farthing'' [?].It was his hobby in hours outside a well paid job.
Zodiac's cultural inclinations tend to support a staid upbringing and lifestyle for the real person.''Blue Meanies'' is the closest he ever got to referring to something ''contemporary'',and remotely associated with the psychedelic generation - and this was analogous to cartoon characters.
Zodiac may well have partaken in the odd ''spliff'' - but apart from fancying the girls,Hippies were not his ''bag''.
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Post by WelshChappie on Aug 24, 2015 12:37:19 GMT -8
Some fascinating insights on what played out at Lake Herman,by both Sandy and WelshChappie. It is very believable that Zodiac started proceedings as a ruse for a robbery,but it is equally believable that Betty Lou fled as far as the road,requiring her body to be dragged back on to the gravel.One wonders to what extent,the police reports are given ''embellishment'' licence,in the interests of further investigations [?].Perhaps we will find,at a later date,that two versions existed [?]. I am not inclined to believe that Zodiac ever existed within the Hippie community.He was a regular worker,with plenty of loose change in his pocket.Cars and guns cost money.Being Zodiac was not something one could do on a ''brass farthing'' [?].It was his hobby in hours outside a well paid job. Zodiac's cultural inclinations tend to support a staid upbringing and lifestyle for the real person.''Blue Meanies'' is the closest he ever got to referring to something ''contemporary'',and remotely associated with the psychedelic generation - and this was analogous to cartoon characters. Zodiac may well have partaken in the odd ''spliff'' - but apart from fancying the girls,Hippies were not his ''bag''. I see him as more of a partaker of the Class A type, not the average member fitting into the Hippie's dreadlocked hash smoking community. No no, Zodiac wouldn't have it that way! He Himself bragged, did He not. . .
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Post by Rubislaw32 on Aug 24, 2015 19:17:20 GMT -8
Indeed !
But more likely strange chemical imbalances going on in that ''cavity ridden'' brain of Zodiac [?].
''I am crackproof''is possibly the most chilling phrase that Zodiac ever ''uttered'' [?].Implanting the thought in us that we would never get to the bottom of him [?].
Well,I am certainly not deterred....psychopaths like Zodiac will always leave a window unchecked - because they continue to have a need to show off - and ultimately,complacency will be their downfall.
One doesn't have to be ''smarter or better'' than Zodiac,to find that ''window'' [?].
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Post by WelshChappie on Aug 24, 2015 21:42:42 GMT -8
Indeed ! But more likely strange chemical imbalances going on in that ''cavity ridden'' brain of Zodiac [?]. ''I am crackproof''is possibly the most chilling phrase that Zodiac ever ''uttered'' [?].Implanting the thought in us that we would never get to the bottom of him [?]. Well,I am certainly not deterred....psychopaths like Zodiac will always leave a window unchecked - because they continue to have a need to show off - and ultimately,complacency will be their downfall. One doesn't have to be ''smarter or better'' than Zodiac,to find that ''window'' [?]. No arguments from me regarding the idea of: ''I am crackproof''is possibly the most chilling phrase that Zodiac ever ''uttered'' I have given my opinion on this comment more than once and believe it to be overlooked and taken in a context it isn't supposed to be taken. Most people see this comment and associate it with Z's braggat and taunting attitude or personality but for me, it isn't simply another 'Too clever for them' kind of claim by the writer. It's to be taken as a literal and fact based comment as seen and known by the writer. The claiment isn't seemingly 'believing' or 'assuming' He is undetainable due to superior intellect or similar, He's stating as if He knows somehow by some means that He is Crack-Proof. The very words crack proof are suggestive in and of themselves just like Bullet proof is suggestive of a metalic thick plate worn to stop bullets entering the chest cavity of person fired at. Crack Proof for me is suggestive that there is somethning here also that protects Him and His ablity to remain nameless and elusive. |
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Post by Rubislaw32 on Aug 24, 2015 22:58:35 GMT -8
So true...and well put.
This has been the crux of my investigations,particularly with respect to ''prime motive''.
Zodiac is inferring [...by crackproof..]that he is confident that the part of him ''where the sun don't shine'' is well covered,in terms of ''absolute'' identity.
Well,''Mister Zodiac'',I understand that law enforcement will need a subpoena,and may struggle to secure it....but from where I'm standing,they are inclined to give it their best shot.
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Post by WelshChappie on Sept 7, 2015 17:15:26 GMT -8
So true...and well put. This has been the crux of my investigations,particularly with respect to ''prime motive''. Zodiac is inferring [...by crackproof..]that he is confident that the part of him ''where the sun don't shine'' is well covered,in terms of ''absolute'' identity. Well,''Mister Zodiac'',I understand that law enforcement will need a subpoena,and may struggle to secure it....but from where I'm standing,they are inclined to give it their best shot. Well if the assumption/theory is correct in the meaning or literal taking of his declaration to be Crak Proof in-so-much as He and his identity cannot be unlocked because no viable key exists with He knowing Fact X will simply protect him from being held accountable then actions that are very odd and not at all recognizable as them of someone in that situation such as seeming to be unconcerned and unaware of the potential risk of capture based on where He is and what He has just done, all of a sudden become understandable and not so odd or out of place after all. If you or I had executed a cab driver at the 4 way intersection of a well lit and residence populated street then the istinctive fear would no doubt cause a flight response from a knowledge and absolute fear that if I stay here messing around at the cab enjoying myself in a favorite past time of ripping up garments on dead men, then OCD kicking in and an unclean cab cannot be tollerated triggering a cleaning mission of interior and the exterior before satisfied all is now looking lovely and walking very calmly and non-panic like as humanly possible well, this wouldn't seem so out of place responses anymore if He at the time know and is aware that it doesn't matter if cops see him, nor witnesses because He knows that his being placed under arrest won't happen. As unlikely as this may seem and sound, imagine for a moment if, lets say just as an example, Toschi was Zodiac.....just an example not literally stating a belief in... What do you think Don and Eric will do if and when they pull up to discover the man is a high ranked superior of theirs? Get out and throw him to the ground face first slapping the cuffs on? No chance what-so-ever, they are taught and trained to respect and take orders from their superiors, not arrest them on sight for comitting homicide. And if Toschi were Zodiac as an example, Toschi would know this all to well and his running into petty patrol cops woldn't really be a bother, he knows He is much superior to them in Rank and position. Not just that hierachy in play to make arrest almost impossible but imagine the revelation being made to the San Francisco general public 'Oh by the way, Toschi who is paid and trusted to protect you and bring to justice them who commit homicides, is himself, it can be announced, the San francisco Zodiac Serial Killer......Any questions from the press plase?" |
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Post by Rubislaw32 on Sept 8, 2015 15:20:38 GMT -8
Of course,when ''Zodiac'' mentioned ''Crackproof'',he'd already got away with his major crimes - and since a period had elapsed which represented the law appearing to come no closer to finding him,he probably felt quite comfortable in declaring that he was ''Crackproof''.
''Crackproof'' stood for the tangled web that disguised his ''absolute''identity - and he must have been aware that,while he was tormenting and murdering,this ''tangled web'' gave him an ''insurance policy'' - but he still had to avoid ''getting caught in the act''.
Having not got caught in the act,he now presumed he was in the clear [?].
But,that was then......
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Post by Rubislaw32 on Sept 24, 2015 5:12:58 GMT -8
With thoughts on Paul Stine's perpetrator in mind :
The ability of the executioner to ''disappear into thin air'',given that he was likely to have been very bloodied,and possibly hard of hearing,will always raise questions that will remain unanswered,until the case is solved.
Did ''Zodiac'' make for the Presidio ? Was he booked in at a nearby hotel ? I have even read about a suggestion that Zodiac may have had a relationship with Donna Lass,and held keys to a flat that she owned,nearby.
The confidence shown by the man who dispatched of Mr.Stine,suggests that he was equally confident of ''step 2'' - getting away.Like a well seasoned bank robber,it seems that he had a head for time allocation [?].Personally,I believe that it was,with a vehicle in mind,that would spirit him away.But was the getaway vehicle his,or that of an accomplice ?
Clearly,the police felt disappointment and failure,in their inability to apprehend the perpetrator.Given that it soon became apparent that this man may well have been Zodiac,must have made the pill that much harder to swallow.
The horse ''bolted'',and whatever transpired in the minutes that proceeded,can't be taken back,and changed.
It is never presumed that Officer Fouke actually failed in his duty.But I suspect that he rues that he was unable to emerge as a hero [?].
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