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Post by ZodiacSeeker on Apr 29, 2015 9:21:29 GMT -8
Sorry I meant it's CLEAR he signed it "me" instead of "zodiac symbol" in what I wrote above. My apologies.
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Post by ZodiacSeeker on Apr 29, 2015 9:28:20 GMT -8
Heck it even makes spld out "Kay." As well. Just add a line on the side of second character and tail again at Y and dot as the period. www.zodiackiller.com/ExorcistLetter.htmlAgain sorry if this has been mentioned. |
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Post by WelshChappie on Apr 29, 2015 14:41:45 GMT -8
Sorry if this has already been brought up, but on the exorcist letter at the end Zodiac signed it with symbols some thought were Keno, but cleat he signed it "me" instead of "zodiac symbol" so it's safe to assume that somehow the letters spell out hus name. If you put them together they spell out "Key." The E is completed by adding a line to the bottom line of E and a line for the tail of the Y. The last character a dot is a period. Is anyone else seeing this? I am just learning if Key or Kaye or Kay whatever he was here now and it jogged my memory of the K in the "exorcist" letter. Here it is: www.zodiackiller.com/ExorcistLetter.htmlWhile it would be self serving and in my own interest to say I believe it does spell Kaye (or to me it more closely resembles 'KLEIN' if anything) I none the less don't thinK that is what it spells. I think it is a little anagram of the words 'To Kill!' If you play around with the symbols a bit you get this:  I think that is by far the most likely answer as to what the symbols mean, especially when when you read the sentence before it: " I will do something nasty, which you know I am capable of doing.... TO KILL" |
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Post by Galaxie500 on May 9, 2015 15:53:58 GMT -8
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Post by Ricardo on May 27, 2015 22:55:02 GMT -8
Thanks, Galaxie500! According to the document that you provided, at the beginning of 1960, Marie Fink Newall Kaye lived with Lawrence Kaye AKA Larry King at 816 St. Philip Street in New Orleans. I was able to find that, according to the 1959 city directory, Marie Newall previously lived with Philip Newall at 935 Pomona Street in New Orleans. Marie Newall is also listed as the secretary-treasurer of Magnolia State Builders, Inc. at 1935 Feronia Street. www.bizapedia.com/la/MAGNOLIA-STATE-BUILDERS-INC.htmlAttachments:
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Post by Ricardo on May 27, 2015 23:00:02 GMT -8
Philip Newall died on May 17, 1958, and about a year and a half later, Marie Newall married Lawrence Kaye on December 30, 1959.
Philip Newall was only 30 years old when he died. I wonder what was the cause of death...
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Post by Galaxie500 on Jun 1, 2015 11:02:41 GMT -8
Philip Newall died on May 17, 1958, and about a year and a half later, Marie Newall married Lawrence Kaye on December 30, 1959. Philip Newall was only 30 years old when he died. I wonder what was the cause of death... Ricardo – Good work!  While I don't care to speculate on the nature of Philip Newall’s death, and doubt that there was anything suspicious or otherwise remarkable about it, particularly given the paucity of contemporaneous newspaper coverage dedicated to the subject, I do feel it pertinent that I mention the following notice, which was published in the May 30, 1959 edition of the New Orleans Times-Picayune:  It appears that he was having some legal (and possibly financial) difficulties. The connections to the home construction industry are interesting, especially in light of Kane’s vocation as a real estate/siding salesman. Business associates, perhaps? |
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Post by Ricardo on Jun 2, 2015 22:45:18 GMT -8
Also perhaps business associates of Norman H. Rogers who was the registered agent of Magnolia State Builders, Inc.?  |
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Post by Galaxie500 on Sept 17, 2015 14:16:18 GMT -8
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Post by WelshChappie on Sept 21, 2015 18:25:01 GMT -8
Hey Sandy...
Any questions regarding the articles above relating to Kaye, refer them to Galaxy hun as He is the one who found, then sent, them to me.
Sandy I know you've mentioned that you thought you had a photo of a person that was said to be Kane but you don't think it's the same man as 'Harvey's Kane' or strongly believe that it isn't anyway, well Hines full report makes mention of Hines and a 2nd detective meeting to discuss Zodiac and a possible case against Kane (I will get the details , ie Detectives name in question etc if you ask just don't have Hines report in front of me at this moment) and both met, introduced themselves and sat to discuss the case and Kane.
Harvey produced his photo of Kane, The Detective did likewise and both men stood staring perplexed at them photo's and agreed they both seemed to have different Lawrence Kane's. After very close scrutiny by both, the eyes and the level thereof, ears and the shape thereof and etc etc etc, they realized it was the same man just looking completely different in each photo.
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Post by Galaxie500 on Oct 28, 2015 14:36:56 GMT -8
Hey Sandy... Any questions regarding the articles above relating to Kaye, refer them to Galaxy hun as He is the one who found, then sent, them to me. Sandy I know you've mentioned that you thought you had a photo of a person that was said to be Kane but you don't think it's the same man as 'Harvey's Kane' or strongly believe that it isn't anyway, well Hines full report makes mention of Hines and a 2nd detective meeting to discuss Zodiac and a possible case against Kane (I will get the details , ie Detectives name in question etc if you ask just don't have Hines report in front of me at this moment) and both met, introduced themselves and sat to discuss the case and Kane. Harvey produced his photo of Kane, The Detective did likewise and both men stood staring perplexed at them photo's and agreed they both seemed to have different Lawrence Kane's. After very close scrutiny by both, the eyes and the level thereof, ears and the shape thereof and etc etc etc, they realized it was the same man just looking completely different in each photo. He certainly was a chameleon, not only in terms of his physical appearance, but also in his handwriting, the information that he provided about himself, etc. He seems to have had a knack for reinventing himself. An interesting fellow, if nothing else... |
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Post by WelshChappie on Oct 29, 2015 2:57:12 GMT -8
Yeah I've always said Kaye was into or upto something dodgy. You don't move around as much as He did showing up in your new location with Alias differing from the name you went by in your previous dwelling. I long suspected Him to be a Governmental informant and one of the articles you supplied G does seem to give that idea some weight when it declares that of His serious charges, those that weren't outright dismissed were reduced to a lesser serious charge and make no secret of telling the reader why. . . "Kane agreed to Help Cops Out."
It could just be that Kaye was running from his crimes though from one City and State to another
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Post by Galaxie500 on Nov 9, 2015 17:53:18 GMT -8
It could just be that Kaye was running from his crimes though from one City and State to another I've always felt this to be the most probable explanation. Even so, one doesn't get the impression that Kane was the type of guy who was satisfied with sitting still while the grass grew under his feet - the aliases, changes in appearance, etc., may have been an extension of that mentality. Recently, while perusing familysearch (an invaluable resource if ever there was one,) I stumbled upon the following listings for "Lawrence Cane" of Zephyr Cove, NV:   ^ Of particular interest is the addition of a previously unknown (to me, anyway) address - 310 Portland. That he recorded his D.O.B. in the first document as Nov. 01, 1930 (not true, obviously) is also worth noting. |
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Post by Galaxie500 on Nov 11, 2015 11:43:32 GMT -8
 (The Poughkeepsie Journal. June 13, 1954.)  (". July 09, 1954.) ^ Kane's address in New York City was, by all accounts, a fairly exclusive one. He must have had quite a sum of money at his disposal. I also find it interesting that the FBI had a file on Kane as early as 1954. ------- Not sure if this was intended to be a reference to Kaye, but the description certainly fits:  (The Daytona Beach Morning Herald. December 22, 1954.) |
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Post by Galaxie500 on Nov 14, 2015 11:45:29 GMT -8
As a side note, Kane's Manhattan address played a minor role in another, unrelated (and, from what I've been able to discern, unresolved) murder case:    (The Long Island City-Star. December 10, 1954.) |
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